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 Post subject: Good Weekend down at Sandblast Rally
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:31 am 
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Despite some lengthy delays caused by a missing medical team and the presence of 30 additional entries in the form of the RallyMoto competitors, Anders Green put on a very good event, and THSCC club members turned out in good numbers, both to help and to compete.

Besides me and Emmie, workers included (please chime in with anyone I'm forgetting):
  • Eric Adams- stage captain
  • Mark Hoerath- stage captain
  • Ed Adams- stage worker
  • Chris Suich- stage worker
  • Charlie Guthrie- stage worker
  • Pete Guthrie- stage worker
  • Cosby Wood- stage worker
  • Matt Smith- stage worker
  • Brian Herring- service crew
  • Kevin & Christine Allen- press coordinator/photographer
  • Amy Fiestel- registrar
In addition to her duties as Registrar and moral support for Anders, Amy also competed as a co-driver for WDC Region competitor Carrie Wilburn. Current and former club members competing included:
  • Bob Wall, driver- 2nd in Prototype 1, 2nd overall
  • Amy Feistel, co-driver- 1st in Prototype 2, 20th overall
  • Simon and Keiran Wright, driver/codriver- 2nd in Spec Rally Focus, 21st overall
  • Kevin Hoff, co-driver- 4th in Modified 1, 22nd overall
  • Andrew Frick, driver- DNF (electrical)
Thanks and congratulations to all!

The RallyMoto bikes were very cool, and the riders were really nice folks with good attitudes. Stories I've heard say the event was a lot harder than they were expecting it to be, but despite a few dumps and endos they were all smiling at the end of the day and every one I talked to said they'd be back next year.

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I was there as a stage worker! Oh, and Brian was actually crewing for Simon and Keiran. All in all, I had an absolute blast at that event and learned something new. I had no idea that Dizzy Gillespie was from Cheraw! That was something that made me smile. :D


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My apologies. List updated...

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Kieran and I had a blast. I'd like to thanks Brian Herring and Emerson Huit (our crew chief) for the fabulous job they did for us throughout the day.

And thanks to all the volunteers who made the day such a success.

And much thanks to Anders and Amy for pulling off a great rally.

We had some trouble with part of our underbody protection early in the day - the leading edge of it came unattached and was dragging on the ground - which contributed to us getting seriously stuck in stage 3. There were 3 or 4 other cars stuck on that stage too including one of the other Foci. I was the only one who managed to get free (with a lot of help from the other stuck teams!). We took off the troublesome underbody panel at the start of stage 4 and Carl (who was working start, fortunately) obliged us by taking it back for us.

The engine was surging at WOT later in the day and I had to modify my technique to try and stay off the throttle - which means I couldn't go as fast as I wanted in some spots. But by half way through the day I was in the "let's just get this finished without getting stuck or breaking anything" mode. Which we did. The soft sections were huge power drains! I hated hearing Kieran reading the notes that included "soft" or "very soft". I quickly learned that momentum is your friend at Sandblast.

Wow! Just wow! What a day! What an intense culmination of 8 months of planning and building and preparation.

When's the next one ?!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:14 pm 
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When's the next one ?!

Simon



That would be tonight, as soon as I get home. :lol:

I have about 550 photos that will eventually be posted at www.sandblastrally.com - giving the CD's with full-res images to Anders tonight.

I haven't had this much fun being a photographer in a while. :D

And except for when he started to follow the tracks into the woods on SS5, Bob was the fastest and most entertaining at every spot where I was shooting. His pendulum turn that I witnessed on SS3 was art in motion. I only got a few shots as he swept through the 90° left where I was standing, though - I was too busy watching the braking/setup to push the button before then. :lol:


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Kevin Allen wrote:
I only got a few shots as he swept through the 90° left where I was standing, though - I was too busy watching the braking/setup to push the button before then. :lol:


Guess that means you need to start becoming an expert videographer instead of photographer. Then you can take the awesome videos you get and pull out still shots and still see all the setup in motion from start to finish. :D


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Kevin Allen wrote:
And except for when he started to follow the tracks into the woods on SS5, Bob was the fastest and most entertaining at every spot where I was shooting.

Chad (Bob's codriver) said there were places where the intended turn was just a few hundredths from another turn, and a handful of times they started down the wrong one. Then stop, back up, get back in gear, then take the correct turn, Chad guessed cost them 15s per incident. Sounded like most of the time they were following other tracks, so the faster guys ahead of them must've been having the same problem.

This was also Chad's first time in the silly seat, so talk about trial by fire! In a fast car there's not much room for mistakes, so Chad did a great job getting up to speed quickly.

As most of you also know, this was Simon's first event as a driver, and Kieran's first time as a codriver, and the first rally for the Focus, so you can be sure there was a lot of learning going on with them! But they had a sensible plan (just finish), they didn't let the thrill of the race lead them into any bad decisions that jeopardized the plan (though they did nearly "technically" get time-barred while stuck on Stage 3...), and they were able to press on all the way to the finish. Congratulations Simon and Kieran for a great first event!

I believe it was "5th time's the charm" for Kent Davis and Kevin Hoff, as they finally made it the distance after many years of trying. Congrats to them too!

Does anyone else have stories?

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I'm just happy to have finished that #$%@ event. Finally. Good grief too many tries to count.

So the story of changing the axle: On Fire Drill (a stage I'm beginning to strongly dislike) we are going along well, notes are flowing OK despite the choppy nature of the stage and Kent is clearly listening to them. We have one of the numerous "R3 short rough 30" calls in the tight and twisty section and it's not just rough it's REALLY rough. After about half of the rough section it feels like the tranny popped out of gear. Well it didn't pop out of gear, it broke the passenger driveshaft. This time up at the tranny end, which is a bit unusual. We coast for a bit to a wide spot in the road just before one of the R2 @ T junctions, I run like a madman setting up the triangles while Kent starts jacking up the car, getting out the spare axle and tools, and taking off the wheel. While Kent makes sure everyone can see that we're OK, warns me if he thinks people are coming too close, and finds tools, I start pulling the axle. The @$%#@$ cotter pin was mangled and took several minutes to pull. Once I got that and the strut loose it was about 15 seconds with the crowbar to pop the CV out of the tranny, losing very little fluid. I got the new axle in before the fluid stopped draining. We put things back together, got the car back on the ground (with the crap cotter pin back in somehow. Lots of adrenaline I guess) and picked up the triangles. After getting strapped in I was absolutely knackered (as Simon might say) and managed to read maybe 1/2 of the notes for the rest of the stage. Needless to say Kent was in no mood to push the car 100% on that stage either so he just drove what he saw.

The thrash took about 15 minutes apparently, and put us late at the next control. From looking at rallyscoring.com it appears that the penalties weren't applied correctly as we should have been about 8 min late at the next control and about 4 minutes early at the one after that -- we "reseeded" ourselves back where we were running pre-CV and there weren't enough cars in line in front of us to avoid the earliness. We both considered it safer and preferable to passing several people on stage. Talking to folks behind us it sounded like no one minded at all.

Oh we also had a silly electrical wiring problem that put us a few min late leaving the last service and left us with low beams only on the night stages. Note to self: don't make wiring changes in the week before an event without testing them in rally conditions. D'oh! The odd thing is that the change Kent made _should_ have made the system more reliable. It appears the PO did something incomprehensible to the headlight wiring too...

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Here a a couple short videos of the cars as they passed my work station...
Stage 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI9ma6RRkBQ

Stage 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCu_cLYrV3Y

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Kevin Hoff wrote:
The thrash took about 15 minutes apparently, and put us late at the next control.


So you changed the axle in 15 mins? :shock: That may be the norm, but to me that's damn quick, especially with roadside conditions. Good job guys!

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It really should have only taken about 10, if it wasn't for not having the exact right tools and the problems with the stupid cotter pin.

But yeah we were working as fast as we could. :lol:

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Good job with the video Chris. It is a shame that it is so hard to tell just how much of a turn that was at Stage 7, and how deep the loose sand was. I almost got stuck there dropping Peter off and then turning around in the Explorer.
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Here's a nicely-framed pic of us in action:
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Please excuse the cross-post from the rally-nc list...

Well, I have nothing quite as challenging as swapping an axle on stage. Besides, it wasn't the sort of thing I considered carrying _in_ the car.

As you all know this was our very first rally event and my son, Kieran, and I have spent a considerable amount of time and effort (and money) building our Focus up to spec. We did run two rallycross events and it held together so we crossed our fingers for Sandblast and did our best. I have no real clue how the car will handle at speed on such a surface so am very tentative on Stage 1 taking 2-3 minutes longer than two of the other Foci and trailing the third by 20 seconds. Andrew Frick in one of the other Foci has popped a rear strut and several of us try and help him reinsert it before the start of Stage 2.

In Stage 2, I am beginning to get my sea legs and stay in the pack. During that stage the leading edge of one side of our underbody protection pops loose and is catching the surface whenever we get in some ruts or soft sand. So it is holding us back too - I didn't realize this was happening until we got onto tarmac and heard this awful grinding noise. Pulled off to the side in transit to take a look and the underbody is bent nearly backwards under the car and dragging. Great. Fortunately we are due for Service A so we dragged our asses (literally) to Patrick where our superb crew of Emerson Huitt and Brian Herring manage to cut off the offending portion of the underbody protection. The ride back to service also has me wondering if we'd bent or broken something in the rear as the ride is extremely harsh and bouncy. Turned out to be about 10lbs of sand hard-packed into the rear wheels!

Stage 3 starts well and our confidence is increasing when we arrive at the sand pit of hell. Three 2WD cars are stuck in an 80 yard stretch. I manage to squeeze around one (Hampton in one of the other Foci, I think) and pass on the wrong side of the second disabled car and grind to a halt in deep sand that packed up under the skid plate. The third car is disabled about 15 yards further on. Shoot! We hop out and grab our makeshift sand shovel (a flat piece of aluminum we were carrying for a jack support) and start shoveling. Fortunately there are already several triangles behind this quagmire from the other competitors so we don't need to put ours out. While we are trying to clear the sand from under the car the rest of the field manages to squeeze past on the other side. The true spirit of competitive stage rally reveals itself as all of the stuck teams try to help each other get free. After some digging and with everyone pushing we manage to get moving only to get stuck again just before the frontmost stuck car. I believe at this time that the problematic underbody was again digging into the surface and fighting our attempts to get free. So, I hop out and start digging again. By this time Mark Bowers in the Combo Sweep Subaru arrives. They try to pull free the leading disabled car and fail. Suggesting to us all that we try to make the area safe for the motorbikes he goes on down the stage. My fellow competitors encourage us to try one more time to get free - we are _so_ close! With a final heave from everyone I manage to drive free. I stop in a clear area so that Kieran can hop in and we get belted in and connected. A wave of thanks to the other teams and we're off again. I am so grateful to those teams - what a great sport!

About half a mile further on I come upon Combo Sweep stopped to the right and behind another disabled car. The road is quite narrow at that point. Combo Sweep is blocking the right side and there is perhaps 5 feet of clearance on the left of the other rally car. Hmmm. If I stop, I'm done - it's that soft. Doing perhaps 5-8 mph I put the left side of the car up on the sand bank. Kieran estimates that we were perhaps at a 30 degree angle. He says the sloped right side of the Focus was vertical as I pass the other car and our wing mirrors pass within 4 inches of one another. We make it!

We complete Stage 3 in 30:45. When we get on the highway for the transit we hear the familiar grinding from under the car and the underbody has repeated its trick of folding back under the car. Just before Stage 4 time control we pull off the road to investigate. This time we decide to remove it. Two bolts and half a dozen zip-ties later and it's off. Fortunately Carl Fisher is working start control and agrees to take it back for us.

Stages 4 & 5 go well for us and we stay within hailing distance of the two other remaining Foci. It seems I'm running at about 90% of the pace of Burak and Andrew. After the aggravation of Stage 3 we're happy to do that with the goal of simply finishing. It is our first rally after all. After the huge delay in Stage 3 we've given up keeping track of our time or of the others. I didn't know at that time that Andrew had got stuck on Stage 3 too and took almost as long as we did to finish it.

Stage 6, the long one before Service B goes fairly well. I run it in about the same time as Stage 1 (in reverse). I'm starting to notice the engine surging at WOT and cannot keep the accelerator down in many places, being forced to shift up to smooth the engine. So I expect I lose quite some time dealing with that. Part way through the stage I come upon Andrew stopped in the middle just after a left bend. I barely squeeze past on the right in first gear spitting sand all the way - I hope he's OK. I later learned that his car just up and quit and refused to crank - perhaps electrical problems.

Service B at Cheraw is smooth. No major issues to deal with and the crew prep the car and feed and water the driver and codriver. The rally is running late so we mount the lights too. With relief we learn that Stage 8 has been cancelled due to road conditions. I'd heard that it had terrible ruts and deep water. I was concerned about pulling water into our Cold Air Intake and didn't have a good plan B. Phew!

Stage 7 is our first stage run at night and it's quite an experience. Our lights are good and bright but not HIDs. Good enough for our style of driving and they were pretty much aimed in the right general direction. I need to tweak them a little but they do the job. With the Spec Rally Focus field down to two cars and Burak being so far ahead I decide to dial it way back and be safe. We were the slowest through that stage with the exception of Carrie Wilburn/Amy Feistel who were struggling with an engine that refused to rev higher that 2800 RPM.

There's a little confusion with the transit instructions as we try to bypass the cancelled stage 8. We're at Stage 9 and it's fully dark. What an awesome experience tearing through the woods at night! This time we're not quite the slowest on stage but we're still keeping it safe and enjoying the ride.

We're through and on the final transit! Back at Cheraw High School it finally sinks in that we successfully finished our first ever rally! We made mistakes and had some issues but we finished the day happy and without any serious problems on the car. Wow!

Simon

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Simon,
I'm glad you were able to finish. It sounds like a challenging/rewarding/frustrating/invigorating day.

I was wondering what happened to you as I was working stage 4 and it had seemed like all the cars had finished, but 5-10 minutes later there went you went.

Having riden on Stage 2, FireDrill, to help Carl create the route book, I knew that stage was going to be hell. It sure sounds like it gaves fits to numerous drivers.

Hats off to you for presevering and completing all the stages. :thumbsup:

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Nice job Simon!!

I read NASA is working on a spec Fucos road racing series. Would you consider running your car in that?

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