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i agree with PJ on the sand vs dirt idea but don't know if the rains may have had any effect or the dirt is actually different. grid could help with multi driver cars but we seem to do alright as is.

the truck while fun to watch definitely hastened course deterioration IMO.

am course favored The General. not sure why. i did find i could run a different line each run. if my third run was a timing glitch (very tight line) then thanks to the timing gods.

pm course i could not find the line. more me than the courses fault.

i gotta tell ya, if this had been a mega coned autoX course i would still be cussing. as it wasn't i thoroughly enjoyed the day.

I think the upper field may be a bit sandier, but I think they're more similar to each other than either is to Kevin's place. Sandy soil deteriorates faster, and clay should hold up better. But it's a bit hard to say, since this in the first event I can recall where the soil was actually damp all day.


I think the truck definitely contributed to the course deterioration, though how much more damage it did compared to the other 8 NO4 cars I don't know. He definitely won the contest for most-aggressive tires, but he didn't appear to be driving that aggressively. This was his first off-road event in that truck, and I thought he drove a pretty smart event. He didn't really understand the significance of the cones till the end, though, when I told him he would've been 3rd overall if he'd stayed clean.

Oh, and trucks have never been disallowed. We've just never had one show up before.


That depends on the number of worker stations. Another good thing about this compact course is that we only needed 4 stations, so if we'd checked the numbers we might've seen we could get by with folks only working once. But it's something that has to be figured out, and it didn't occur to anyone to check. Take the number of drivers in each heat and subtract the number of workers required to staff the course (including timing, start, grid, etc). If you've still got half your folks left, then people should only have to work once- otherwise they must work twice. This calculation needs to be done for the smaller of the run groups. Now that we're starting to get consistently larger fields, we should really be doing those calculations before each event. Thanks for volunteering, PJ!

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Carl Fisher

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No, this was thought of.

We didn't have enough people working to have all stations covered + all 'others' who had already done work. We 'could' have done this, but it would have been REALLY thin.

This WAS thought of, and infact, I brought it up again the morning of to Kevin Allen.

- dow

I stand corrected- it didn't occur to me to check.

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Carl Fisher

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The afternoon course was great. I was able to drive it without lifting for my last 2 runs. The flow was also very good.

The only change I would make is to the morning course. I felt there was a lack of different elements. It felt like basically 3 hairpins and 1 left hand sweeper. I didn't mind the tightness as it forced you to stay ahead of the course and keep a clean line. So maybe if there was a cicane or some

I wouldn't blame the truck for the deep ruts as the afternoon course had some big ruts after the 2wd cars ran. I think we will expirience rutting like this with any new field. I have noticed a difference in the size of ruts that form at 4 oaks since I started running there, I think that after several rallyx that field could be quite stable.

I was just happy to see 3 fully prep'd rally cars out there.

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Mk1 Scirocco Rally Car

1. VWub
2. Ander's Franken-preza
3. ?

dude in the red 4 door scoobie, Sam maybe.

Ah, the turbo legacy. Gotcha.

- dow

3: The gray Ford Escort GT had a full cage, window nets, seats, etcetera. Those guys competed at Sandblast Rally this spring in that car. They pitted down at the end, with the enclosed trailer.

Anders

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Lina Racing: As Seen On Radio

So, is that 4 then?

Why were their roof scoops backwards?

- dow

No, it's 3 - there were only 3 cars there that are logbooked and legal for stage rally. Sam's (is that the right name?) turbo Legacy doesn't have a cage.

The roof scoops flip either direction if they are the same as what Kent has in the Eclipse.

Now that we have a pretty big group running rally tires I think it might be worthwhile to revisit the run groups - while I understand Carl's rationale for running 4wd/rally tires first in the AM it really seems to make life hell for the 2wd cars. Why not run all rally tire cars together in the second run group both AM and PM and balance the heat sizes with the SO4 and SO2 cars, keeping SU2 running first both AM and PM?

--Kevin H.

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2003 WRX (again!)

Kevin is right. Sam's Legacy is no where near a real rally car. It has a full interior and no cage.

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2010 Honda Fit Sport
Couple of bicycles

Depending on the aerodynamics, opened rearward either sucks, or blows in less. On my rallycar (with additional scoop) it blows less when open rearward.

Anders

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Lina Racing: As Seen On Radio

sorry, didn't really look inside of Sam's car.

and i agree with Kevin. SU2 first am & pm. or maybe we could get a tractor grade between heats. hell halfway would have helped in the am. did you all see the depth of that rut at the last left hander before the finish?

Wow... I didn't think it was possible to suck AND blow at the same time....

- dow