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 Post subject: "A Kick In The Grass" rallycross report
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:40 am 
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Thanks to everyone who came out for helping to make THSCC's first rallycross a complete success! For those of you who were on the fence about coming, or decided at the last minute to pull out, you missed a great time! We had 34 drivers, and with about an hour or so lunch break, and some delays due to timer issues, everyone got their 6 runs in by 2:30, followed by 45 minutes of fun runs. The weather was great- mostly sunny and warm, but not too warm. And although it looked like a big storm was blowing in while we were packing the bus, it missed us and all we got was a few drops of rain during trophies.

Special thanks are due to several folks who put in a lot of hours to make this event happen. Peter Baio came out for every work day to help prepare the field for us. Mike Winn volunteered his time and tractor to mow the course and pit area. And, of course, Kevin Allen put in many more hours toward the cause, both in preparing the course, and in needling his mom to let us have the event there! :D Thanks also to Café Monet in Smithfield who arrived with tasty lunches just as we finished our morning runs.

About half the course turned out to be on softer soil, which did develop ruts fairly quickly. Fortunately, in most places people’s lines were different enough that a tall center ridge never developed. Also, the displaced dirt was very soft, so the risk of car damage was low. However, as many people discovered, if you slid wide in a corner and into the deep soft stuff, it really slowed you down!

For the 3 afternoon runs we were to run the course in the other direction, but clearly some other changes were needed. So
while folks were munching on their sandwiches during the lunch break, Kevin and I went out and rerouted the course to avoid the most badly rutted areas. The modified course was more open, and most folks seemed to run it 3 to 4 seconds faster than the morning one. There was one corner where you could carry a single long drift through several consecutive gates- it seemed to be a favorite!

The concept of cumulative scoring (as opposed to “best time”, as in autocross) was another new concept for most drivers, and they soon discovered that those pesky cones they hit in the morning were going to be with them all day! Of course some folks seemed to just be in it for fun- the Adams Ligon and Menges, co-entered in a Miata, were the undisputed kings of coneage, hitting 15 between the 2 of them!

Some other notable results were: Vincent Keene, who would have finished 2nd behind his codriver in the SO4 class (street tire, 4WD) had it not been for 2 cones on his first afternoon run; and Jason Mauldin, Jordan Denhoed, and Charlie Guthrie, who walked away from the rest of the SO2 class (street tire, over 2.4 liters, 2WD), with Jason finally taking the win. Matthew Johnson would have given a schooling to everyone in SU2 class (street tire, under 2.4 liters, 2WD) had his VW GTI rally car been in good working order, but it wasn’t so he struggled in a Nissan Sentra he co-entered with former ProRally teammate Eric Adams. Still, Matthew did put in the fastest time of all cars on the morning course. Also worth noting is that we had 4 women participating, including 2 students from the spring Chicks School- you go girls!

I think most folks learned a lot, including that you don’t need a 4WD car to do rallycross, or to be competitive. We had a wide variety of cars turn out, including a VW Beetle, a Toyota Corolla, and 2 BMWs, all of whom did quite well in their classes.

I hope people will be encouraged by what they've seen and heard of this event, and come on out to the next one!

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 Post subject: cones
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:10 pm 
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Yeah 8 of those were mine, 4 in the first run I believe :twisted:

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 Post subject: Rally-X for the truly lowly
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:30 pm 
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I learned a valuable sesson trying to coax possibably the lowest car at the event around the course. Don't drive your car out "just to spectate", you might get sucked in.
Ground clearance is a GOOD thing for rally-x. A few things under my car were bent and I ripped a boot on the power steering rack. Also, if I got near any of the deeper ruts, I was dragging the whole belly pan. Once I got so "stuck" that it seemed that it took triple the normal time to get through the turn. I think I was driving just to groom the course by dragging/grading the track.
Did I have fun?....Yes.
Would I do it again?....Not in my car (anyone want to carpool)
This was a significant, new, fun thing to do with a car. This really does favor stock, street tired vehicles.
Thanks to the event organizers for such a fun event.
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 Post subject: rallye cross
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:28 am 
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[i] i think it might be fun if we could have a rallye cross on like a hard gravel surface, that way the ruts will not develop. if you go to google online and goto images, and type in dirt roads, it has alot of photos of like light gravel hard packed drit roads, if we could have a event at a site somewhere that was composed of like hard packed dirt&gravel mix. the ruts won't be as bad, for i too was experiencing ground cleareance issues. however, driving hard gravel roads on occasion around wake tech, and around heree, they seem to rut up only sometimes, and then not aas bad., though i don't do it when it has rained recently, for fear of getting stuck. :D (and i have seen one that was rutted up, but it was steep and hilly so therefore really had runoff probs, mostly, i have not seen it get bad around here.) but they don't seem to rut up as bad. the gravel does not APPEAR to have had a adverse effect on the car, though i roll in to the throttle to avoid throwing rocks real bad, but it doesnot seem to have hurt it very bad. i hear vir has something maybe maybe not, but hard packed gravel would be cool, b/c it does not seem to rut as bad..........

well, i guess that is my two cents worth.... i will probably be @ the autocross...

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