rallyxing a miata?

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:15 am

So "officially" what are our rules for it? Scca says either a hard top OR a roll bar. What say the powers to be so I know what I need to do for prep this winter.

Chad Culbertson · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:49 am

Safety wise, I think a roll bar is your best bet. A hardtop on a Miata won't do a thing to protect you in a roll over.

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:56 am

Either will a roll bar, there are plenty of pictures that prove that.

I am working on finding a roll bar but getting one used is hard to find.

Chad Culbertson · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:50 pm

I went and found a bunch of pics of Miatas with bars that rolled over and don't see any decently built bars that failed. I saw plenty of questionable roll bars that I wouldn't trust.

I have a Hard dog hard top in mine and it looks plenty strong. Of course the other major thing is making sure you're far enough below the bar as well. I did see some pics of collapsed windshields but the roll bar was still in the same place even though the shield frame collapsed. I think the better way to make sure you're under it enough would be to make a straight line from the bar to like the point of the hood where the shock/spring towers are and make sure you can fit under that line.

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:20 pm

Very much agreed.

Hurry up rallyx season, Les was bragging about then still rallyxing in Florida this past weekend.

Chad Culbertson · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:29 pm

jeremy gast wrote:

Very much agreed.

Hurry up rallyx season, Les was bragging about then still rallyxing in Florida this past weekend.

Seems like they could have autocross and rally-x there year round, lol.

George Bright · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:01 pm

I think some of the concern about the bar is if you roll in soft dirt and the bar sinks in. I know a little about staying under the Line if the windshield frame collapses.

RickyBeam · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:47 pm

jeremy gast wrote:

Either will a roll bar

There's a big difference between "none" and "very little". Without a bar, the car has a near 100% likelihood of crushing you. A proper rollbar will prevent that. (and might actually stop a complete roll-over -- I've seen a few of those.) Yes, it can dig in an slowly bury you, but that's survivable. (and our insurance likely says you have to have one.)

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

Your best bet is to check with Bowie from an insurance perspective. Email treasurer@thscc.com

Les Davis · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:04 pm **Posts:** 2059

Chad Culbertson wrote:

jeremy gast wrote:

Very much agreed.

Hurry up rallyx season, Les was bragging about then still rallyxing in Florida this past weekend.

Seems like they could have autocross and rally-x there year round, lol.

Indeed, though some clubs actually take the summer off.

Chad Culbertson · **Posted:** Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:34 pm

I found something else you need for this Rallycross Miata.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=597108

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:57 pm

Suspension is already complete in my head. :thumbsup:

Right now just looking for a deal on a roll bar or a new one before the season starts.

Pete Guthrie · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:06 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K_9PqPlGGw i want someone,to do rally africa in a lifted miata.

RayMetts · **Posted:** Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:02 pm

Okay, this thread brings up a great point, because one without a rollbar was allowed to compete at our event yesterday. Not to mention, some SCCA members were present and took note, although no one spoke up to raise concern. (I didn't realize it until after the event, or I would have spoken up. I like RallyX and want to keep our program alive.)

RickyBeam · **Posted:** Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:57 pm

RayMetts wrote:

(I didn't realize it until after the event, or I would have spoken up. I like RallyX and want to keep our program alive.)

They've had a bar on it at previous events. It was an oversight, probably because no one was doing tech.

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