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Was May 8th, 2010.

Our CWB neighbor who owns the land up next to the road has complained to the county commissioners for the second time (they ignored her the first time ), so either our land has to be rezoned for business/ public gatherings (not going to happen), or we stop having rallycrosses. Apparently a small group of family/friends getting together for a cookout/ rallyx playtime is okay, though. Currently zoned for personal/ agriculture; me driving my car around the field = personal, me on the tractor smoothing out the course = agricultural.

The issues complained about were noise and too many cars driving up and down our easement (our path is technically on their land, but has been there for so long that they can't interfere with our using it).

It was fun while it lasted.

Bummer.

Thanks for all the memories. If status should ever change, let us know.

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Chris Suich
Apex, NC
AutoX 2012 Nissan Leaf (Quietly changing the world)
AutoX 2003 Mini Cooper S (on sabbatical)
RallyX 1993 Nissan Sentra - "Le Tigre"
FunX 1970 Camaro LT1 ('95)

For your Mom and you to have property (for a residence or otherwise) an ingress/egress is easement is REQUIRED by the county. Without that easement you would have no access to the highway. The property owner has to provide that easement whether he wants to or not, and cannot legally keep you from using it.

There is always someone who wants to be a prick. Events happned no more frequent than one day out of a month. It's not like we were out there everyday, every weekend, or at night.

Thanks for letting us use it for the time we could.

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Vincent Keene
'06 Ford Mustang GT (track rat)
'15 Dodge Charger R/T (yeah, it's got a HEMI!)
'07 Ford Fusion SE (205,000 miles and counting)
'98 Chevy Z-24 (retired)
'93 Acura Integra (Team SWB 24HOL Car)

there is a man, who has a drag pickup.. near kevin.. i wonder if he is next.
weenies.

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Thanks for some fun times. Too bad neighbors aren't what they should be. It was only a few days out if the year, damn it, what's the big deal?

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'93 Subaru Legacy DIRTBOMB
'98 BMW M3
2013 Rallyx Co-VP

Dang. It was fun while it lasted.

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1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun

yup. that sucks.

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another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

I think Four Oaks was a relative bargain for the club compared to OCS was it not?

Would a $100 per event offer to your neighbor change their mind?

I'm serious. Money talks, and I think we can afford it. Offer it officially as a "noise and inconvenience" payment.

I'm thinking this could possibly be handled diplomatically and with favors, if the relationship is intact...

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Mike Whitney
whit32@gmail.com, 919-454-5445
V10, V8, V8t, I6, I6, V6, F4t, I4, I4, I4, I4, I2, 1, 1

I am so sorry about that Kevin. It is tough dealing with neighbors and the county! This is the same reason I can't offer RallyX at the land I own in Alamance County - I already got into it with the neighbors and county.

Could this same thing happen to BMW Farm? Is it in the same county? When we were there last, and it was so dusty, I was watching the dust clouds drift off the back side of the land and thinking - that dust has to go somewhere, and I wonder if it's making it to someone's house who is going to complain about it.

It would be nice if the neighbors could be offered compensation - good suggestion Mike! Folks say that money can't buy happiness, but it sure does help...

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Broken 89 Subaru GL-10 RallyX turbo wagon - need to sell it and all my parts cars

Don't get me started on the Johnston county zoning dept and how they operate. As some of you know, I had it out with them when I first built my shop out behind the house. They said I was running an illegal auto repair shop (not true, I don't work on any cars besides my own) and then they said that county zoning rules said that I was only allowed to have 1 vehicle on my property. I asked them if they had ever looked around Johnston County to see that most people have at least 2 cars, and plenty of folks have all sorts of cars all over their property. The reply I got was "we're not talking about other folks". They beat me down for a while, but I just laid low and let it sort of blow over and then they haven't said anything about it in a couple of years now. (fingers crossed)



This does suck, and YES it *could* happen at the BMW farm. I guess the big difference is that we don't have neighbors that are very close to the RallyX fields, and the driveway is 100% ours. The neighbors that live out at the back of the farm mentioned that they saw the dust clouds during the last RallyX, but I think they were more curious/interested in what was going on, rather than being annoyed. I invited them to come out next time to see what it was all about, and told them that maybe we could arrange for a ride-along if they were so interested.

I'm sure some of you guys know that I've always asked that the "THSCC AutoCross" sign that is put up at the end of the driveway be taken down as soon as possible after the event gets going, I just don't want any more attention drawn to the event than necessary.


Mike may have a valid point about paying the neighbors an inconvenience fee- it couldn't hurt to ask IF Kevin feels like he wants to do so and IF he has a decent relationship with them.

This is something that we need to be VERY aware of, I don't think we can afford to lose any more sites.

Well, she's one of those people who's your best friend to your face, and your worst enemy when you turn around. Plus, in the threatening letter, it basically says it's in the hands of the law now. "There will be regular visits to check up" sort of thing. And it doesn't need to be the original CWB that turns us in; could be a different one, and then we get fined/ jail time/ whatever.

We're done.

That sucks!! I know that was one of the best places to rally-cross!

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