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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:10 pm 
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All this debate is silly....

The simple fact of the matter is that Red Bull Girls come to rallyx events...

This alone is enough to keep the program running.

Walter lured one of them into taking a ride on one of his runs and I watched her giggle the whole time while he made a sloppy run with one hand on the wheel and the other hand on the..................... shifter?

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David Edwards wrote:
All this debate is silly....

The simple fact of the matter is that Red Bull Girls come to rallyx events...

This alone is enough to keep the program running.


And I thought everyone was just excited to see a MINI at a rallyx.

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i had fun fri and saturday. though the car went south saturday, really early on. friday i ran the subaru pretty hard.. and she did not complain once, I did find a deeep hole though. Anyhow, had fun great course and surface.DUSTY AS ALL GET OUT! Good grief.. I have never been dirtier, all told fun though.. Breaks my heart that the car died early on, that course was extremely addictive. I would enjoy that layout again. :P

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I Scared you that bad Mitch??? :oops:


It scared me into not wanting to do another HPDE at Rockingham and I wasn't in the car. If that telephone pole had fallen toward the car, you guys might not be here.

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David Edwards wrote:
All this debate is silly....

The simple fact of the matter is that Red Bull Girls come to rallyx events...

This alone is enough to keep the program running.

Walter lured one of them into taking a ride on one of his runs and I watched her giggle the whole time while he made a sloppy run with one hand on the wheel and the other hand on the..................... shifter?


She was scared and I was comforting her! :wink:

You guys should have known me when I was in my prime. No woman was safe. :roll:

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Another idea for debate.

What about adding a modified class? While the Laser has no suspension mods and minimal drive train mods, the weight loss mods have made a difference. It probably isn't fair to the guys driving stock cars.

We could have SO4 stock and SO4 mod, SU2 stock and SU2 mod etc.

More winners might mean more participants?

Stock would really have to mean no modifications, except for maybe the air cleaner filter. A welded dif is a definite mod!

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ya but truly how many people havnt done a mod to there car!! I do daily drive my car, I have done kyb agx's, sti springs, saggy butt spacers, wrx wagon rear sway bar, 2.5 forester motor swap(2.5 rs basically) and COMPLETE exhaust. I think the class' are great for the amount of cars we have. If we were hitting our quota of 50 cars then maybe a true STOCK class. no one likes being a winner in the class of 1. I think right now need ot figure out how to get more participants!!!

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Another idea for debate.

What about adding a modified class? While the Laser has no suspension mods and minimal drive train mods, the weight loss mods have made a difference. It probably isn't fair to the guys driving stock cars.

We could have SO4 stock and SO4 mod, SU2 stock and SU2 mod etc.

More winners might mean more participants?

Stock would really have to mean no modifications, except for maybe the air cleaner filter. A welded dif is a definite mod!

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yah.

i was having this convo with someone about classing. pretty much said the same thing jeremy did.

there's always the "X class", where you can race and you wont be counted for anything. :lol:

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WalterHouston wrote:
Another idea for debate.

What about adding a modified class? While the Laser has no suspension mods and minimal drive train mods, the weight loss mods have made a difference. It probably isn't fair to the guys driving stock cars.

We could have SO4 stock and SO4 mod, SU2 stock and SU2 mod etc.

More winners might mean more participants?

Stock would really have to mean no modifications, except for maybe the air cleaner filter. A welded dif is a definite mod!


Hey Walter and interesting question!

Honestly, if we were to talk about this, I would really prefer that we start a new thread about this, as it is a very long subject. I think it is one we have talked about previously, as well (3-4 years ago).

Great topic, but in keeping with the general "KISS" methodology that Tarheel follows, it would seem the most likely to use SCCA classing structures, if people wanted a change. This would account for any modifications, and would be inline with people doing National Level events.

I would propose that, if our group saw the need for change. Our original thought was that we just needed people showing up and learning to drive rather than worrying about classing and what class they belonged in.

It would be interesting, however. I know my car would be RP4 (not Mod4), and I think Whitney's would as well.

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Brian Herring wrote:
WalterHouston wrote:

It would be interesting, however. I know my car would be RP4 (not Mod4), and I think Whitney's would as well.

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Nope I'm Mod. Swapped the 2.2 for a 2.5 block. Took the car from annoyingly slow to acceptably slow, that's all. Probably making 170 hp. Also swapped to rear discs 'cause I hate working on drums!

The extra power is nice but it's still nothing compared with a WRX or the Laser Monster

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The benchmark for "Whether we need a Mod class" is and always has been to invite Kevin Allen out to run a stock Subaru whatever in your class. If he beats the most modded car, there is no need for a Mod class.

Once a few modded monster cars start taking the driver out of the equation (is that even possible?) then I agree we need a new class.

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i personally like/prefer the class they way they are. Not much thought or agrevation about this mod or that mod. Just tires. I know if i can ever make it up to dc and run i will be mod with no tires cause of the motor swap and rear disc swap that i hope to have done by the next event.

MikeWhitney wrote:
The benchmark for "Whether we need a Mod class" is and always has been to invite Kevin Allen out to run a stock Subaru whatever in your class. If he beats the most modded car, there is no need for a Mod class.

Once a few modded monster cars start taking the driver out of the equation (is that even possible?) then I agree we need a new class.

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now if someone brings a fully prepped rally car/truck. either we'll laugh because they cant drive it, or we'll put them in a separate class since they'll probably smoke us.

haha.

j/k about the laughing, we'll probably ask for a ride instead

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MikeWhitney wrote:
The benchmark for "Whether we need a Mod class" is and always has been to invite Kevin Allen out to run a stock Subaru whatever in your class. If he beats the most modded car, there is no need for a Mod class.

Once a few modded monster cars start taking the driver out of the equation (is that even possible?) then I agree we need a new class.


Agreed.

I wish the caged Talon that came out in 2007 BMW farms would come out again. He had gotten the car off Craig's list, and it had a TON of power, and WAS faster.

Conversations from the past:
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class
http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... ight=class

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the guys from long road racing on capital blvd have a rally galant vr4 i have told them several times to come out and get some runs in. they were also at sandblast with it. It didnt finish :(

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