your plans for 08

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:11 pm

DS Bantha Fodder wrote:

We were doing some prep work on the Crossfire on Sunday and realized that our car was illegal, much more so than any vacuum hoses too.

Doh!

I'm going to have to keep an eye on you guys! :lol:

Ryan Holton wrote:

If doesn't say you can, you cant.

Very true.

Rodney, I think you are looking at it from the wrong direction. The only reason you are allowed to replace control arms in the first place is for "camber adjustment". The new control arms don't really need to adjust camber but if you do replace them with something other than what came on your model of car, you can't take advantage of the camber plate allowance. If you use plates as your "camber adjustment", you aren't allowed to muck with your control arms.

Jim

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Can you swap the control arms and use crash bolts? If that's legal, do that and skip the camber plates.

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:41 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

Can you swap the control arms and use crash bolts? If that's legal, do that and skip the camber plates.

Nope. 14.8.I.2 specifically prohibits changing control arms in combination with any other form of camber adjustment.

Quote:

14.8.I.2 On arm-and-strut (MacPherson/Chapman) suspensions, the
lower arms may be modified/replaced OR other methods of
camber adjustment as allowed by paragraphs 14.8.B, C, or G
may be used, but not both.

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

Thinking about bleeding the brakes. That's about it.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:32 pm

I posted the question of "can a M3 FLCA be used on a 328 in STS" on bimmerforums and I was soundly flogged for my stupidity of asking an asinine question. Now I know and therefore I admit defeat and will replace the FLCA with a stock part. After 4 years of flogging the car and 80+k in miles on the current parts, I think it wise to replace. Now I just need to figure out which camber plates to use w/ M3 struts. IIRC, motor force has a nice set of plates that can be used w/ stock struts.

freak'n rules.... :evil:

And to add to my list of actions, I think it's time for new RLCA bushing, motor and tranny mounts as well.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:23 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

Yup, we'll be there. We were doing some prep work on the Crossfire on Sunday and realized that our car was illegal, much more so than any vacuum hoses too. Fortunately, I know at best this didn't help the car, but likely hurt the performance, so hopefully, it should be even faster for 2008

Unlike what Curt Schilling says, I will not be giving back my trophies until I "clear" my name

- AB

I wonder why Crembor wasn't all over this in Topeka?? :poke:

I'm not telling him though...I'm on your side!!!! :lol:

David Spratte · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:52 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

I'm still on the fence about what I want to do.

Option 1: Buy DS car, beat Buckley like a rented mule sending him back into retirement.

Option 2: Buy HS car and become a local PAX legend (for a year). :roll:

Option 3: Buy Camaro and cruise for chicks with Jim P. :shock:

Option 4: Take up synchronized swimming.

Jim

Well, I'm hoping for the DS route. So we can punt the Buckle to third.

If Jim takes up synchronized swimming, I'm driving the the BRB MINI some more.

In which case, my prep consists of more tires. Oh. . . I might put an oil pressure gauge in it. And buff out some cone marks. :oops:

Jeb Brookshire · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:05 pm

This will be my first season with the Miata. I intend to learn a lot from the Breakey boys in STS2. So far I have added the Racing Beat catback and intake. I have a Jackson Racing header on the way. Hopefully the 3 will sold this weekend and that will free up money for a roll-bar and some other goodies/maintenance that a 93 NA will require.

KendtEklund · **Joined:** Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:29 pm **Posts:** 1204

*Trying* not to spend too much more money :lol:

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Hopefully over the holidays:
- get tach driver installed so shift light will work
- wire up low OP warning light
- install CarPC screen and Pioneer HU
- roll my fenders (215 Sumitomo's are big suckers!)

'08:
- Oil cooler
- Oil separator/catch can
- Race seats - think I've found 2 that I'll be happy with :wink:

- Autopower roll bar
- 15in AX-only or 16in track/AX wheels
- have enough $ left to run VIR in Feb :lol:

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:14 pm

Todd Breakey wrote:

I wonder why Crembor wasn't all over this in Topeka?? :poke:

I'm not telling him though...I'm on your side!!!! :lol:

There isn't a person on the planet that would have found this without pulling parts previously to find it. Bryan hadn't noticed it either and I just happened to notice it after pulling the car apart.

All I can say, is that it's now fixed. Besides, that's our advantage. No one wants to spend the money or time to figure out the odd ball car out there... especially when the factory manual is $600. :twisted:

- AB

steve remchak · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:24 pm

MarcusMcRae wrote:

First I need to find out where the anti-freeze is leaking from the front of my car.

Continue replacing all the crappy BMW bushings. Engine mounts, diff mounts, rear control arm bushings, guibo blah blah blah.

c'mon Marcus show some love for the ultimate driving machine. they aren't crappy bro the are consumables.

my top radiator hose bib sheared off recently. you might want to check that.

what up with the guibo?

steve remchak · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:30 pm

RodneyWright wrote:

I posted the question of "can a M3 FLCA be used on a 328 in STS" on bimmerforums and I was soundly flogged for my stupidity of asking an asinine question. Now I know and therefore I admit defeat and will replace the FLCA with a stock part. After 4 years of flogging the car and 80+k in miles on the current parts, I think it wise to replace. Now I just need to figure out which camber plates to use w/ M3 struts. IIRC, motor force has a nice set of plates that can be used w/ stock struts.

freak'n rules.... :evil:

And to add to my list of actions, I think it's time for new RLCA bushing, motor and tranny mounts as well.

come to the dark side LUKE.

if your front control arms are original then yes you are ready for a refresh. i thought you had done the M3 hats flipped thing Rodney. what do you need the extra camber for?

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:48 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

All I can say, is that it's now fixed. Besides, that's our advantage. No one wants to spend the money or time to figure out the odd ball car out there... especially when the factory manual is $600. :twisted:

- AB

I'm glad you guys found it. It would have sucked for someone else to find it and call you guys Hippocrates.

BTW - did you see the article in Sportscar about protesting. It seemed to be directed at Crembor, et al. Basically saying that if you don't make absolutely sure that your car is legal, then you shouldn't be upset when someone files the paperwork on you. Actually a good read, I thought.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:51 pm

Oops, sorry for trying to get this thread off topic. I'll steer it back now...

Plans are for replacing some wear items and that kind of thing. And to get my brandy new RE-01Rs mounted. An alignment is definately in order. I would like a RB hollow front bar as well. Oh and I will definately get getting the BHP Hotness for stopping power.

Jeb, between you Bernie and I, we should have a blast this year. Probably won't see Adam much as he is now a Track Rat. Matter of fact, Bernie bought his green Miata.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:00 pm

steve remchak wrote:

come to the dark side LUKE.

if your front control arms are original then yes you are ready for a refresh. i thought you had done the M3 hats flipped thing Rodney. what do you need the extra camber for?

yeah, I have the flipped hats, but that only gets you about 2.3-2.5 negitive. I've also dialed out as much rear camber as I can to give me some difference. I'm currently about 1.5 in the rear.

From what I've read on bimmerforums, bimmerhaus and so on, for the car to hook up correctly, you need about 3.5n up front and 2-2.5n in the rear. I think w/ the stock rear setup, I can dail in about 2 in the rear w/ no custom control arm. The camber plates should get me what I need for the front.

That may also change my sway bar setup. Most of what I read, autox folks use a heavy front bar and stock M3 rear bar. I'm running H&R bars right now. Just need a test and tune and some seat time to see what works for me.

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