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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:26 am 
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I am getting my state tax return back and am wanting to invest in some auto x tires. I have a set of 15 inch rims that I want to stick them on. Any ideas on what to run???? Laurinburg's grip got the best of my fronts...


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How wide are your rims?

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I don't know what you're driving, but if Kumho makes your size, you can't go wrong with the V710's.

I run 205-50-15's on my ITR and I'm up to about 70 runs and didn't pay extra to get them heat cycled. Hopefully they have one or two events left in them.

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Matt McGrain wrote:
I don't know what you're driving, but if Kumho makes your size, you can't go wrong with the V710's.

I run 205-50-15's on my ITR and I'm up to about 70 runs and didn't pay extra to get them heat cycled. Hopefully they have one or two events left in them.

good luck,
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You can get well over a hundred runs out of a set of V710s if you take care of them. They won't be perfect, but they won't suck either.

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Matt McGrain wrote:
I don't know what you're driving,


Fox Body Mustang GT IIRC.

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I'm trying the Avon Tech Ra's this year, and with almost 60 runs they barely look broken in. Except for the fact that they're pickier to pressures and a little harder to dial in than the Hoosiers I ran the last 2 years, I'd say the lifecycle and price makes them a shoe in. Good for top 10 pax/raw finishes at every event so far this year.

But from what I hear you really can't go wrong with the V710 either.

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Dustin Fredrickson wrote:
I'm trying the Avon Tech Ra's this year, and with almost 60 runs they barely look broken in. Except for the fact that they're pickier to pressures and a little harder to dial in than the Hoosiers I ran the last 2 years, I'd say the lifecycle and price makes them a shoe in. Good for top 10 pax/raw finishes at every event so far this year.

But from what I hear you really can't go wrong with the V710 either.


The Avon Tech RA are on sale marked as closeout right now. Not a bad discount either. Rob Lupella has been running them and seems pretty happy with them.

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Jake, you were running some old Hoosiers on aftermarket rims, right? Were they the same size as the stock 15x7s or larger diameter/wider? If you stick with 15x7s, your choices are 225/45-15, 225-50/15 or 245/50-15. Of the brands I looked up on the Tire Rack site, only Hoosier makes a 245-50/15.

I used to run the old generation BFG R1s in 245/50-15. They were a little wide for the 7" wide rims, so their response was a bit rubbery, but they offerred better ultimate grip than 225/50-15s. I finally gave up on them when I spun the car around backwards at full lock, and learned that while it's no big deal for the tire to rub the back of the lower A-arm in a tight turn while going forward, it is a big deal with the tire rotating backward -- cut the entire shoulder off the tire, well in the cord.

According to the specs published by Tire Rack, the Hoosiers seem to offer a wider carcass/tread in the 225/50-15 size than Kumho or BFG. Avon is getting out, so while you could get tires cheaper this time, they probably won't be around the next time you're looking.

The other thing to consider is tire life. Hoosiers and Kumho 710s are fast new, but I've read reports in this forum that they lose their grip before they are worn out. I've been running Kumho Victoracers for a long time, and they seem to perform pretty evenly throughout their lives. Of course, if they were ever as fast as new R6s and 710s, I would be king :)

Check around on the tire life issue, and decide how much you want to spend. You might decide to pick up a relatively inexpensive set of semi-sticky street tires and learn to deal with the understeer... then when you do jump for R-comps you'll know how to get the most of them.

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Dustin Fredrickson wrote:
I'm trying the Avon Tech Ra's this year, and with almost 60 runs they barely look broken in. Except for the fact that they're pickier to pressures and a little harder to dial in than the Hoosiers I ran the last 2 years, I'd say the lifecycle and price makes them a shoe in. Good for top 10 pax/raw finishes at every event so far this year.

But from what I hear you really can't go wrong with the V710 either.


I saw those and they looked like something I would try. Bad thing is, they say they have my size, but Tire Rack doesn't carry them (even though their ad says they do. :evil: ) I'll track some down for next year probably. I'm interested to hear how they do for you for the rest of the year.


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One thing to watch out for with Fox Mustangs is flat spotting the inside front tire under braking even if you think you are not turning at all.

FYI The Firestone Wide Ovals (essentially Bridgestone RE750s) are a pretty good "real" street tire on my 01 Mustang.

However, if you want maximum treadlife you may want to pick a non directional tread pattern for more rotation options.

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