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 Post subject: Auto Auctions?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:48 am 
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So I'm shopping for another car ... a new beater / rallycross car, and I think the "perfect" car is something that will find its way across an auction block somewhere.

So does anyone out there go to car auctions regularly who could help me find something? Where are the best auctions? Do any of them regularly publish a list via email or the internet of what is coming in? Anyone else have some "tech" to share?

Ebay, cars.com, and Autotrader just don't seem to be generating many leads for the kind of car I'm looking for.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:01 am 
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My brother recently picked up two cars at an auction. The last one for his girlfriend....92 Miata, under 100,000 miles, auto with a hard top for $2,200. I am not aware of any public auctions in this area though.

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Les Davis told me about an auto auction in Richmond. Check this website http://www.4mag.com/ and talk to Les about it.


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Hmmmmm auto auction..... hmmmmmm

We raced there TWICE last year! USL Auto Auction of Greenville. Will actually has put together a NICE web site.

http://www.uslaa.com

Public auctions are on Wednesday nights.

Here is a list of stuff on the auction block tonight. I dont know if its EVERYTHING that will be there.

http://www.uslaa.com/Listings.htm

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whats wrong with the e30 mike?

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PJ Aspesi wrote:
whats wrong with the e30 mike?


RWD == wrong wheel drive for RallyX.

Dont the 'Rally Kings' new rules allow for RWD cars though?

Kevin "Rally King" Allen wrote:
YI, here are the 2006 class descriptions I would use if I were "rally king" Laughing and we don't follow the SCCA rules...

AWD turbo or > 2.4L on street tires
AWD NA 2.4L and below on street tires
AWD on rally tires
2WD with LSD on street tires
2WD without LSD on street tires
2WD on rally tires
POS car class - would be cars purchased for < $500, would run on street tires, and members would make up their own rules by unanimous decision - and yes, the class letters on the side of the car would be "POS" Laughing

Power, handling and lightening mods would be unlimited (within reason) in each class.

If < 3 cars were present for a certain class, those cars would be bumped up into the most similar class.


Guess not. 2WD class only. :(

Mike -- I have been on the lookout for you... I just havent found something that is somewhat close and met your criteria. Sorry :(

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:36 am 
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PJ Aspesi wrote:
whats wrong with the e30 mike?


Nothing wrong with it, I'm just craving a better speed rush. Ever taken a fun run in an AWD car?

Also ... don't laugh ... I want a nicer "beater". And I have done all I care to do to the E30, so I'm bored.

PS - Soon for sale (probably in the spring): 1986 BMW 325es with a wrinkled fender and lots of nice aftermarket parts. Inspected, runs fine, everything works, relatively few "issues".

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MikeWhitney wrote:
PJ Aspesi wrote:
whats wrong with the e30 mike?


Nothing wrong with it, I'm just craving a better speed rush. Ever taken a fun run in an AWD car?

Also ... don't laugh ... I want a nicer "beater". And I have done all I care to do to the E30, so I'm bored.

PS - Soon for sale (probably in the spring): 1986 BMW 325es with a wrinkled fender and lots of nice aftermarket parts. Inspected, runs fine, everything works, relatively few "issues".


What will be the hypotetical price of this hypothetical sale?

Also, I completely understand wanting a nice beater. My ultimate solution to the rallyX car is an AWD manual car for about 3-5K that will serve as a DD + RallyX.

A nice plush rallyX suspension would be very friendly to the wife in DD terms, and much easier on the pocket book.... YMMV, IMHO.

:)

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Arthur McDonald wrote:
Les Davis told me about an auto auction in Richmond. Check this website http://www.4mag.com/ and talk to Les about it.


Art beat me to it. In my experience, this is a good place to go pick up a clean, low mileage, late model car like this ;-). Of course I haven't been in a year and a half. But the Richmond site on Tuesdays is rumored to have the best deals. Avoid the weekend auctions. The day I spent there, it looked like everything was going for wholesale or less. The best deals were on the more expensive cars because you had pay cash. The day I was there a 2003 Mustang GT convertible in pristine condition and with 6000 miles on the clock went for $14K I believe. Unfortunatley, I didn't have $14K cash on me at the time. :(


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I've been going to car auctions around here for ~10 years or so, mostly dealer only salvage auctions- but they often have "beater" type cars there, usually sold by other dealers who don't want to or can't sell the cars on their retail lots.

A couple of these auctions now allow the general public to buy cars- except the few that have paperwork problems or are sold as "parts only" which are limited to licensed dealers. Keep in mind that most of these auctions charge an annual registration fee- which varies from $175-250, and then they charge all sorts of other fees on top of your high bid. I'm looking at a receipt for a car I bought at a salvage auction in Northern Va last year. I bid using their online bidding service, for which they charge a $35 "internet" fee if you are the high bidder, plus a $40 "buyer fee" and a $20 "pull out" fee (for them loading the car for you- they pretty much force you to let them load the car for you), all of this tacked onto a car that I "won" with a high bid of $175......once you add all the fees, it's more like $270- but I try to factor the extra fees in while deciding how high I can bid on a car.

I know MAG also hits you with a bunch of buyers fees- so ask about that before you buy something. I registered with them (personally) a while back- online using my credit card- but I never bought anything from them- yet!

A couple of the local auctions that I know of that allow public buyers are Adesa Impact (off Hwy 70 in Clayton) and IAA (Insurance Auto Auctions)- they have locations in Graham (called their "Raleigh" location...) and Charlotte- also VA, SC and many other states, but only the NC locations allow Public buyers. Adesa and IAA both specialize in insurance "salvage" cars- but they do sell anything that anyone drags in there for them to sell (did I mention that they also charge sellers fees???) There's also a dealer auction in Kenly- Aycock Auto Auction- they sell alot of dealer trade ins as well as retired fleet and lease vehicles- I think they even have a GSA contract to sell some retired gov't vehicles.

Might want to check out the "DWI" auctions held in Linden NC several times a year- check www.tarheelspecialties.com for the info, and an online listing of cars they have coming up for sale. I've been to quite a few of these sales, they are open to the public, have little or no buyer's fees. The only problem about this place is that lots of people know about it, and you are not likely to find a screaming deal here.

Keep in mind that at all of these auctions, these cars are being sold at auction for one reason or another- that's why I often prefer to buy a wrecked car than one that is not wrecked- you can assume that a wrecked car was at least running + driving at the time it was wrecked- you cannot assume ANYTHING about any of the other cars. In fact, with most of the donated cars (did I mention that many of the cars donated to charity end up at the salvage auction???) you can almost be assured that there is something wrong with the car-


Let me know if I can help with your hunt.


Bret.


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 Post subject: Drug Seizure?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:13 pm 
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[url=http://www.ncstatesurplus.com/ssp/public/display_bid.asp?bid=112085&dt=12/8/2005&type=2[//url]I've seen some WRXs at the NC surplus/drug seizure lot.[/url]

But they're few and far between. Something to keep an eye on though. Can't complain about location.

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 Post subject: Re: Drug Seizure?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:38 pm 
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David Spratte wrote:
[url=http://www.ncstatesurplus.com/ssp/public/display_bid.asp?bid=112085&dt=12/8/2005&type=2[//url]I've seen some WRXs at the NC surplus/drug seizure lot.[/url]

But they're few and far between. Something to keep an eye on though. Can't complain about location.


That place produces no "bargains" I've ever seen. Not sure why, but the cars at that auction go for wwwwaaayyy to much.


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