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 Post subject: Did a cracked gas cap fix my car?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:15 pm 
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About two years ago I swapped out the 2.2L engine in my '91 Subaru Legacy for a 2001 2.5L. There were several connectors on the wire harness that weren't compatible and so compromises were made to get it to run. Unfortunately it soon started to hesitate under rapid acceleration and backfire when downshifting, not much at first, but it progressively got worse. I checked everything I could think of, replaced some parts that were too old anyway, and finally chalked it up to the difference between the two engines causing timing issues.

I was thinking about spending too much time and money to upgrade the harness, fuel injectors, etc, when my gas cap broke in the recent cold weather. When I drove the car to the auto parts store to pick up a new one there was a big surprise: the hesitation and backfiring were gone! Not only that, but when I put on a new cap, I noticed when the car was turned off a loud gurgling coming from the gas tank.

My working theory is the gas tank has become completely sealed so the fuel pump has to work harder and harder to get gas the longer I drive. When the car stops the air is sucked back into the tank somehow, causing the gurgling sound.

Fuel starvation could explain the hesitation issue, but what about the backfiring? I thought that was caused by excess fuel, not a lack of it. And besides, the injectors are supposed to regulate fuel and throw an engine code if something goes wrong.

In any case I'm going to check the tank breather hose for obstruction.

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 Post subject: Re: Did a cracked gas cap fix my car?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:59 pm 
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Lean mixtures will also cause misfire. I had a lean-burn condition on my 280Z. As for the injectors causing a code, there isn' a feedback to the CPU from the injectors. The only code might show up would come from the O2 sensor.
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 Post subject: Re: Did a cracked gas cap fix my car?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:12 pm 
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Yup, I did some more research after posting and found out that lean mixtures can indeed cause backfires. I managed to find the hose that purports to bring air into the tank, and it was covered with a huge layer of dirt and rust, so in all likelihood its just clogged. This weekend's task will be to dig it out and fix the blockage.

In any event I'm loving the improved performance.

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 Post subject: Re: Did a cracked gas cap fix my car?
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Had a similar thing on my FI Cagiva. I never noticed it on short rides with a full tank. Then one day I filled up and headed out for an all day ride. After a few hours it started sputtering and backfiring and died. Indicator still said I had fuel. I had to nearly pry the fuel cap open there was such a vacuum on the tank. Then it fired right up. I found the plugged vent line and fixed it - no more issues. Just glad I didn't burn up my fuel pump - that thing must've been working hard!

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