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 Post subject: Farnbacher Loles is likely done.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:59 pm 
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http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009 ... church.txt

Supposedly Spencer, the lead "employee" in the CT shop, was at Road Atlanta this past weekend supporting FL customers from the CT shop. He had former FL employees with him, too, but none of it was FL. It was all Spencer.

I do know Leh already has a ride for next season in Rolex GT and it isn't with FL, but I can't say who it *is* with. So at least Leh comes out of it fine.

My Cayman's gearbox ate itself a little while back and it was at FL in CT to be serviced, so I'm likely out that. But it was pretty terminal, so I'm not out *much*. Still trying to reach Spencer to be sure we can't get it somehow, but it seems unlikely as usually the feds lock the doors hard in a case like this, and they don't do it unless someone is guilty of SOMETHING.


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Did you link the right article? I having trouble connecting the two. - AB

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Either that or the Porsche guys fund their racing by stealing from the Greek Orthodox Church... I new P-car people were heathens. :lol:

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Actually it looks like team principal Greg Loles is being investigated for embezzling from the church.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/brea ... led-funds/

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Strangely, the article DID mention Greg Loles by name earlier today and now it doesn't seem to. One of the comments on it does, but that's it.

Apparently the "Farnbacher" half of this is some German dude who has his own shop in Germany. Don't know how the two are/were related in business, but a lot of what FL sold was really made over there.


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Good thing it was the Greeks and not the Italians. The Italians wouldn't bother with the feds, just some other "relatives" :wink:


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Donnie Barnes wrote:
Strangely, the article DID mention Greg Loles by name earlier today and now it doesn't seem to. One of the comments on it does, but that's it.

Apparently the "Farnbacher" half of this is some German dude who has his own shop in Germany. Don't know how the two are/were related in business, but a lot of what FL sold was really made over there.


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There are now rumors that this was a ponzi scheme and the amount may be in the $100M range. On top of that, apparently around Saturday Greg Loles was discovered by his son attempting to commit suicide. His son, Dino, as well as his wife, Popi, both worked for FL. People who worked there are split on who knew what...some think they all knew, some swear that only Greg knew what he was into.

I'm seeing conflicting reports, however, on where Greg is. One report firmly states he is still in the hospital, and others are saying he skipped the country. No firm details on where his family is, either.

There are also a LOT of allegations being spread around about crew chiefs and other employees being "in on it" and such, but sounds like that could just be sour grapes from former employees. The most up to date news story is here:

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009 ... 016016.txt

But the interesting stuff is in the comments below that story. It's turning into quite the soap opera.

One thing is for sure...FL employees became enough "in the know" that something bad was fixing to happen that they did warn at least some of the regular customers who were being supported by the CT facility because those folks went and picked up cars from there as late as last week. Some of the other regular customers had already made themselves former customers in recent months because of being owed money and such, one to the tune of $200k. How a customer ends up owed $200k is beyond me, but there's a lot of talk of a LOT of customers having put deposits down on new cars that were never ordered. My guess is that with FL a "deposit" on a new car was probably the total amount of what the car cost from Porsche and you only later paid for whatever FL did to it in prep. I know they were taking orders for $80k Cayman's built on new cars (so the deposit would have been around $55k, I'd guess). They also had possession of one brand new RSR, but supposedly that was taken back by PMNA very recently. And they may have taken a few deposits on the new GS BMW's they were going to run.

Anyway, crazy stuff. Talk about "silly season."


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I am not sure if autoracing seems to attract a specific criminal element, or if people get into racing and then turn into criminals to support the lifestyle. When they say racing is like crack, they are not far from the truth.

John Paul Sr. and Jr. come to mind as previous examples of this syndrome.

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Richard Casto wrote:
John Paul Sr. and Jr. come to mind as previous examples of this syndrome.


Don't forget the Whittington brothers buying (and at least improving it a bunch) Road Atlanta with big time drug money (and supposedly even having planes land on the back straight).

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Chuck Branscomb wrote:
Richard Casto wrote:
John Paul Sr. and Jr. come to mind as previous examples of this syndrome.


Don't forget the Whittington brothers buying (and at least improving it a bunch) Road Atlanta with big time drug money (and supposedly even having planes land on the back straight).


see now, without the "Old Gaurd" i would never have heard about the length of RA's backstretch. i guess i need to try that track one of these days. :lol:

one of my favorite memories of my trip to Jamaica was the explanation of the 15 ft tall steel girders placed every 150 yards on alternate sides like fence posts on the roads. 8)

sorry to hear of this actually, because i think as a car builder they may very well have had their poop in order. greed or stupidity?

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Somewhere Hennessey is laughing, and he's one of the biggest thieves out there -- and still gets the attention of MT, C&D, R&T, etc. for building unpossibly fast dyno queens that are also unreliable.

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 Post subject: Re: Farnbacher Loles is likely done.
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Donnie Barnes wrote:

I do know Leh already has a ride for next season in Rolex GT and it isn't with FL, but I can't say who it *is* with. So at least Leh comes out of it fine.


http://www.grand-am.com/news/index.cfm? ... &cid=24489

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