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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:54 pm 
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Mike, what are you going to do with that?


I dunno, why do you ask? Probably ride it to the grocery store once a week.


Just curious what you had planned for it.

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Wes Eargle wrote:
RJ wants to know how much you want for it; he'll be at VIR this weekend. Seriously.


When did I say it was for sale?

The cult following on these things is amazing. Well-kept original bikes in good shape go for $1500-2000. Mine has higher mileage but a lot of new parts and has been essentially 95% restored.

I'd part with it for the right (amazingly high) offer, but if he's looking for a deal tell him to keep looking.

I *would* be willing to trade for a 70's CB360 or other classic Honda, condition not important but as original as possible.

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I shouldn't have ever sold my '64 Honda 90

It was no trail bike, but spent plenty of time off road. Sold it in college along with my '72 Suzuki T250 for way too little.

{edit} Wow, 33 HP at 8000 RPM- that T250 DID move.


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Dragged it out last summer...1975 CanAm 125MX2 motocross bike, original owner. :) It hadn't been started in many years, but it didn't take much to get it running. Hopefully it isn't still radioactive.


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MikeWhitney wrote:
Wes Eargle wrote:
RJ wants to know how much you want for it; he'll be at VIR this weekend. Seriously.


When did I say it was for sale?



Dude, come on. Everything that you own is for sale, you just haven't named a price yet. :wink:

rpjenkins at the google mail thing.

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Dragged it out last summer...1975 CanAm 125MX2 motocross bike, original owner. :) It hadn't been started in many years, but it didn't take much to get it running. Hopefully it isn't still radioactive.


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I have to say Chuck... I'm impressed ;) - AB

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Dustin Fredrickson wrote:
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I shouldn't have ever sold my '64 Honda 90

It was no trail bike, but spent plenty of time off road. Sold it in college along with my '72 Suzuki T250 for way too little.

{edit} Wow, 33 HP at 8000 RPM- that T250 DID move.


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All right, next time I actually make it out to an autocross, I'll figure out how to bring it along. Anyone who has ridden a Honda C*-*0 before can take it for "fun runs" :)

Maybe I should take it to the rallycross this weekend. Hmmmmm.

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Aaron Buckley wrote:
I have to say Chuck... I'm impressed ;) - AB


:? ?? CanAm?

Adding to the THSCC Continuing Education Series of 1970's Two-Stroke Motorcycles...

CanAm had the highest performance 2-stroke engines of their era coupled with a very strong, well-designed (remember, no CAD in those days) frame that was extremely stiff juxtaposed to the Japanese flexi-flyers of the day. CanAm (Bombardier) used a rotary valve induction system that was uncommon (Kawasaki dual-purpose two-stokes used them, and small Suzuki dirt bikes (i.e. TS100)), but CanAm tuned it for maximum power and applied it to a motox bike with a very novel design. There was no other motox bike of the day with a rotary valve engine. The great part of it is that it prevents the engine from loading up when you lug it off the powerband. In addition, it allowed more precise intake tuning at high rpm. It allows an engine designer to have a very large intake tract to flow lots of air at low pressure drops while at the same time not completely losing low rpm, "off-pipe" (to use common parlance of the day), torque.

The main competitor at the time was the first generation Honda Elsinore CR-125. It was "the" dominant bike of the time just prior to long-travel suspension becoming the new driving force in dirt bike evolution. The '75 CanAm had "forward mounted" shocks, where shocks were moved up the swingarm to gain more travel at the axle. Hence it was one of the first motox bikes to move into the new coming era. ~9-months later the Suzuki RM-125 was introduced with an even more radical, 1st generation, long travel suspension (forward mounted and canted over shocks). However, the CanAm still outdid the zook in engine performance with that hot Bombardier motor.

Racing against a CR-125, once the CanAm was in 3rd gear (of 6), it was all over. The 125MX2 was just as quick as hot 250 enduro bikes of the time (i.e. Penton 250) as long as you kept it "on the pipe", so to speak. It's powerband is from about 7000rpm to 10,000 rpm, and off that powerband it drops off very quickly. Still, off the powerband, it was much more tractable than the typical 125 motox bike which would "load up" and foul its spark plug, etc. For a time, a CanAm held the world speed record at the Salt Flats for a stock 125cc engine bike.

If anyone hasn't driven a 2-stroke 125 motox bike, don't pass up the experience if you get the chance. It gives "high rpm torque" a whole new definition. The hit you get right at the transition where everything (intake timing, transfer ports, exhaust ports and expansion chamber tuning) begins to resonate, and that climb up that RAPIDLY building torque curve, will provide a new internal map for you on engine performance. Makes the power curve of a first generation 930 turbo seem like a pansy.

I can't imagine what a modern 125cc 2-stroke motox bike must be like...oh wait, I think they've disappeared now. :( :lol:

EDIT: Just found a link about CanAm. Looks like the 125cc land speed record still holds...don't know what class it was in though. So here's a link to close out this installment of the history of two-stokes: http://www.rotax.com/NR/rdonlyres/FFB15DA2-3B90-465A-9D3B-93222E80B637/0/CanAm_HistoryEN.pdf

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All right, next time I actually make it out to an autocross, I'll figure out how to bring it along. Anyone who has ridden a Honda C*-*0 before can take it for "fun runs" :)

Maybe I should take it to the rallycross this weekend. Hmmmmm


Hey I qualify! I had a ton of fun on the C-90 my grandparents had at their farm up in PA. I might actually drag myself out to an autocross for a chance to ride a C-90.

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Wow!!! Some of you "old" car guys and I have alot in common. Had a Suzuki
TM 125 back in the day. Traded it when the Honda Elsinore came out. Best
125 I'd ever ridden. Still have Full Bore moto-x boots, leathers and a Honda
jersey with my name on it. Remember Klotz oil? Best smelling stuff ever. Used to ride in circles just to smell my own exhaust. (That probably explains a few things!) Cut my teeth an a Honda trail 70 though. Those were the days. Roger DeCoster, Brad Lackey.......

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Robert Goodwin wrote:
Wow!!! Some of you "old" car guys and I have alot in common. Had a Suzuki
TM 125 back in the day. Traded it when the Honda Elsinore came out. Best
125 I'd ever ridden. Still have Full Bore moto-x boots, leathers and a Honda
jersey with my name on it. Remember Klotz oil? Best smelling stuff ever. Used to ride in circles just to smell my own exhaust. (That probably explains a few things!) Cut my teeth an a Honda trail 70 though. Those were the days. Roger DeCoster, Brad Lackey.......


I loved the TM 125. A good friend of mine had one, and I always enjoyed riding that thing. I never did get a TM 400 that I swore I would own one day, lol. Speaking of two stroke exhaust -- you know you're a bit demented when every time you run the weed eater or blower all you can think about are 35 year old dirt bike memories. Helps to burn the right oil in the yard tools too. :) My Full Bore boots are long gone, but didn't they make (put there name on) oil too?

Roger was THE man back then. In the fall of 1974 I got to see him clean house at the Road Atlanta motocross race. Yes, there used to be a motox track at Road Atlanta. It covered the face of the hill on the right side of the main straight which is now partly the new pit/paddock. Last fall when I was at RA, I tried to find remnants of the track but failed.

Here's a blast from the past for you Robert:

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I'm such an idiot. Maybe it's time for a therapist.

Dragged this home from Smithfield after the rallycross. 1975 Honda CB200T with 435 original miles. $125. Came with a title :)

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It's NOT as good as it looks like the picture. Seized engine, 2 broken handlebar levers, bad tires, lots of rust on the chrome. Hasn't been ridden since 1981. But I couldn't pass up a bike with such little mileage...

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