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I am tired of all of the Gore bashing. You want the truth? Here is the truth and there is plenty of science to back all of this up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

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Dang Richard, didn't expect the rick roll coming from you. Nice one. :)

On the subject of the AlGore, as the world spokesman on global warming I just don't understand why he doesn't at least put up a few solar panels in the back yard. Sure it would mostly be a token gesture, but at least its something, he certainly can afford it.

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This thread was getting way to serious. It just made my day doing that.

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I'm not an expert on the US economy, so can somebody here tell me how to fix the current situation? Assuming this isn't the right direction to go in. I feel odd about all the bailouts over the past year or so, and all the bailouts that are supposed to go down in 09 - I mean, if they're failing in the first place, why give them more money? Seems like a waste to me. But there's also the fact of how many people are employed by auto manufacturers, the effect on the US overall, etc. I'm just wondering what the real solution is. Does anybody really know? Or do we basically just have to try something and see if it works, then try the next thing?



D-UH Everyone knows that the way to fix the economy is to enact bigger and permanent tax cuts for businesses and the working people in America. They will create more jobs and that will get the economy started. It will engender more spending on capital projects and create a demand for product. They will therefore, hire more ordinary citizens to work for them and thus we will have more people working and earning a paycheck thus having more disposable income to spend on product. This will bring more profits to the companies which they will invest in their company to improve their product, build new manufacturing, and hire more workers. As the companies profit these profits will be shared in the form of dividends, bonus', and pay increases (merit only) for employees, shareholders and mutual fund/401K participants.

Furthermore, the owners and officers of the businesses will have more income to spend and will spend them on Mercedes, BMW's, Lexi, and other vehicles. They will invest in real estate and have money to speculate on investment real estate. This in turn helps all home owners by increasing the value of their home and their all important nest egg.

All this money in the system alleviates the credit issues and creates new open credit markets that are freely accessed by business and ordinary working Americans making all of us able to afford bigger houses, a Corvette/Honda/BMW to play with, and supports a lifestyle unmatched by any other nation.

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RobLupella wrote:
Kevin Allen wrote:
I'm not an expert on the US economy, so can somebody here tell me how to fix the current situation? Assuming this isn't the right direction to go in. I feel odd about all the bailouts over the past year or so, and all the bailouts that are supposed to go down in 09 - I mean, if they're failing in the first place, why give them more money? Seems like a waste to me. But there's also the fact of how many people are employed by auto manufacturers, the effect on the US overall, etc. I'm just wondering what the real solution is. Does anybody really know? Or do we basically just have to try something and see if it works, then try the next thing?



D-UH Everyone knows that the way to fix the economy is to enact bigger and permanent tax cuts for businesses and the working people in America. They will create more jobs and that will get the economy started. It will engender more spending on capital projects and create a demand for product. They will therefore, hire more ordinary citizens to work for them and thus we will have more people working and earning a paycheck thus having more disposable income to spend on product. This will bring more profits to the companies which they will invest in their company to improve their product, build new manufacturing, and hire more workers. As the companies profit these profits will be shared in the form of dividends, bonus', and pay increases (merit only) for employees, shareholders and mutual fund/401K participants.

Furthermore, the owners and officers of the businesses will have more income to spend and will spend them on Mercedes, BMW's, Lexi, and other vehicles. They will invest in real estate and have money to speculate on investment real estate. This in turn helps all home owners by increasing the value of their home and their all important nest egg.

All this money in the system alleviates the credit issues and creates new open credit markets that are freely accessed by business and ordinary working Americans making all of us able to afford bigger houses, a Corvette/Honda/BMW to play with, and supports a lifestyle unmatched by any other nation.

Does that help?


sarcasm Rob? isn't this how we got in this mess in the first place?

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steve remchak wrote:
RobLupella wrote:
Kevin Allen wrote:
I'm not an expert on the US economy, so can somebody here tell me how to fix the current situation? Assuming this isn't the right direction to go in. I feel odd about all the bailouts over the past year or so, and all the bailouts that are supposed to go down in 09 - I mean, if they're failing in the first place, why give them more money? Seems like a waste to me. But there's also the fact of how many people are employed by auto manufacturers, the effect on the US overall, etc. I'm just wondering what the real solution is. Does anybody really know? Or do we basically just have to try something and see if it works, then try the next thing?



D-UH Everyone knows that the way to fix the economy is to enact bigger and permanent tax cuts for businesses and the working people in America. They will create more jobs and that will get the economy started. It will engender more spending on capital projects and create a demand for product. They will therefore, hire more ordinary citizens to work for them and thus we will have more people working and earning a paycheck thus having more disposable income to spend on product. This will bring more profits to the companies which they will invest in their company to improve their product, build new manufacturing, and hire more workers. As the companies profit these profits will be shared in the form of dividends, bonus', and pay increases (merit only) for employees, shareholders and mutual fund/401K participants.

Furthermore, the owners and officers of the businesses will have more income to spend and will spend them on Mercedes, BMW's, Lexi, and other vehicles. They will invest in real estate and have money to speculate on investment real estate. This in turn helps all home owners by increasing the value of their home and their all important nest egg.

All this money in the system alleviates the credit issues and creates new open credit markets that are freely accessed by business and ordinary working Americans making all of us able to afford bigger houses, a Corvette/Honda/BMW to play with, and supports a lifestyle unmatched by any other nation.

Does that help?


sarcasm Rob? isn't this how we got in this mess in the first place?


Sarcastic, me?? :shock: :roll: Its just a theory - just like all the rest. Would work perfectly in a world uninhabited by greed, market controls, imperfect competition etc......now where did I put that world????


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 18_pf.html

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With Al Due Respect, We're Doomed

By Dana Milbank
Thursday, January 29, 2009; A03

The lawmakers gazed in awe at the figure before them. The Goracle had seen the future, and he had come to tell them about it.

What the Goracle saw in the future was not good: temperature changes that "would bring a screeching halt to human civilization and threaten the fabric of life everywhere on the Earth -- and this is within this century, if we don't change."

The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, John Kerry (D-Mass.), appealed to hear more of the Goracle's premonitions. "Share with us, if you would, sort of the immediate vision that you see in this transformative process as we move to this new economy," he beseeched.

"Geothermal energy," the Goracle prophesied. "This has great potential; it is not very far off."

Another lawmaker asked about the future of nuclear power. "I have grown skeptical about the degree to which it will expand," the Goracle spoke.

A third asked the legislative future -- and here the Goracle spoke in riddle. "The road to Copenhagen has three steps to it," he said.

Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho) begged the Goracle to look further into the future. "What does your modeling tell you about how long we're going to be around as a species?" he inquired.

The Goracle chuckled. "I don't claim the expertise to answer a question like that, Senator."

It was a jarring reminder that the Goracle is, indeed, mortal. Once Al Gore was a mere vice president, but now he is a Nobel laureate and climate-change prophet. He repeats phrases such as "unified national smart grid" the way he once did "no controlling legal authority" -- and the ridicule has been replaced by worship, even by his political foes.

"Tennessee," gushed Sen. Bob Corker, a Republican from Gore's home state, "has a legacy of having people here in the Senate and in public service that have been of major consequence and contributed in a major way to the public debate, and you no doubt have helped build that legacy." If that wasn't quite enough, Corker added: "Very much enjoyed your sense of humor, too."

Humor? From Al Gore? "I benefit from low expectations," he replied.

The Goracle's powers seem to come from his ability to scare the bejesus out of people. "We must face up to this urgent and unprecedented threat to the existence of our civilization," he said. And: "This is the most serious challenge the world has ever faced." And: It "could completely end human civilization, and it is rushing at us with such speed and force."

Though some lawmakers tangled with Gore on his last visit to Capitol Hill, none did on the Foreign Relations Committee yesterday. Dick Lugar (Ind.), the ranking Republican, agreed that there will be "an almost existential impact" from the climate changes Gore described.

As such, the Goracle, even when questioned, was shown great deference. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.), challenging Gore over spent nuclear fuel, began by saying: "I stand to be corrected, and I defer to your position, you're probably right, and I'm probably wrong." He ended his question by saying: "I'm not questioning you; I'm questioning myself."

Others sought to buy the Goracle's favor by offering him gifts. "Thank you for your incredible leadership; you make this crystalline for those who don't either understand it or want to understand it," gushed Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), who went on to ask: "Will you join me this summer at the Jersey Shore?"

The chairman worried that the Goracle may have been offended by "naysayers" who thought it funny that Gore's testimony before the committee came on a morning after a snow-and-ice storm in the capital. "The little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of the crisis," Kerry said at the start of the hearing.

The climate was well controlled inside the hearing room, although Gore, suffering from a case of personal climate change, perspired heavily during his testimony. The Goracle presented the latest version of his climate-change slide show to the senators: a globe with yellow and red blotches, a house falling into water, and ones with obscure titles such as "Warming Impacts Ugandan Coffee Growing Region." At one point he flashed a biblical passage on the screen, but he quickly removed it. "I'm not proselytizing," he explained. A graphic showing a disappearing rain forest was accompanied by construction noises.

The Goracle supplied abundant metaphors to accompany his visuals. Oil demand: "This roller coaster is headed for a crash, and we're in the front car." Polar ice: "Like a beating heart, and the permanent ice looks almost like blood spilling out of a body along the eastern coast of Greenland."

The lawmakers joined in. "There are a lot of ways to skin a cat," contributed Isakson, who is unlikely to get the Humane Society endorsement. "And if we have the dire circumstances we're facing, we need to find every way to skin every cat."

Mostly, however, the lawmakers took turns asking the Goracle for advice, as if playing with a Magic 8 Ball.

Lugar, a 32-year veteran of the Senate, asked Gore, as a "practical politician," how to get the votes for climate-change legislation. "I am a recovering politician. I'm on about Step 9," the Goracle replied, before providing his vision.

Prospects for regulating a future carbon emissions market? "There's a high degree of confidence." The future of automobiles in China and India? "I wouldn't give up on electric vehicles." The potential of solar power in those countries? "I have no question about it at all."

Of course not. He's the Goracle.

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So when you can no longer credibly dispute the message, the last resort is to make fun of the messenger?

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I split the global climate discussion off to another topic. I think that's worthy of it's own discussion, IMO.

http://www.thscc.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=8864

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Carl Fisher wrote:
So you don't believe the global climate is changing? :?:



while Wes probably doesn't believe dinosaurs ever existed Carl, the belief that man has actually doomed Mother Earth is probably a stretch. climate change is cyclical and as such good times and bad times are to be had.

should the technically advanced nations of the Earth try to decrease their impact on the ecosystems of our world? sure.

Tipper never really did much for rock-n-roll but posture an opinion. Al is at least a Nobel Prize winner. some fuc*ing how. :?

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Well I think this just about sums it up...

"Economic stimulus package"
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"Amen! Malicious cock gets up."

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Well I think this just about sums it up...

"Economic stimulus package"
anagramed becomes
"Amen! Malicious cock gets up."

:shock:


That's funny!!!

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