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 Post subject: F1 - Brazil (spoiler)
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:11 pm 
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Well I would have liked the other outcome, but I can't deny that he derserved to win it. Though Glock rolled over like a beaten dog in that last lap. I know he was on dry tires, but it did not look that wet. Of course the italian webcast I was watching was spotty.


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Ok, i am happy the Hamilton won. I have been pulling for him all year. But I will also say that Massa is a class act. He handled defeat like a man and did the best he could in that race. You could see the pain in his eyes as he pulled up to park his car. Apparently he thought during his cooldown lap that he had won the championship. I really felt badly for Massa and his family as there is nothing worse than thinking it is yours and then finding out it's not.

I suspect that while everyone said Hamilton/McLaren was guessing rain, I think they really had a dry setup. He just wasn't very quick in the rain. They were making such a big deal out of how fast Vettel was compared to Hamilton on the last few laps, but it was really Kubica who they should have been talking about. He passed both Hamilton and Vettel like they were standing still. Hamilton was in trouble and was barely holding his position but Vettel (and Kubica) caught him as they caught up with traffic. The slower cars did their best to get out of the way, but it allowed both Vettel and Kubica to be right on top of Hamilton.

I am guessing that the turn in which Kubica passed Hamilton that as Kubica completed the pass that it took the air off Hamilton's front wing (Hamilton didn't appear to be really late braking for that corner), then Hamilton pushed slightly wide onto the slick outside and then Vettel was through. From that point forward I was sure Hamilton had lost it. But give him credit for not trying a stupid move on Vettel. He could catch him under braking, but couldn't get the power down out of the slower corners.

I think there may be some who think Glock got the call from McLaren somehow :roll: , but the rain was getting worse in some parts of the track during that last lap and I think Glock really was struggling. As Hamilton made the pass you can see Glock trying to get the power down, but the rear was stepping out. He was just on the wrong tire at that point.

Overall, it was a dramatic finish to the race and championship. Frankly that race was a perfect example of what is good about F1 racing. I hope next year is just as good and it will be interesting to see how the teams deal with all of the changes. As much as I can't stand Ferrari, I would like to see Massa win a championship because I think he is good enough to be called a champion.

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Yeah I was really pulling for both Massa and Hamilton. I hated to see Hamilton loose another 7 pt lead but Massa sure has had a good last of the season. I was just afraid my DVR was going to cut off before the end since they had the delay,!

Did I hear that Monaco is not on the schedule next year? I guess it is antiqueated with zero passing but there is so much history I just hate to see all that leaving the sport.

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I haven't heard anything about Monaco. I can't imagine them messing with that race. Canada is currently not on the schedule.

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Richard Casto wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Monaco. I can't imagine them messing with that race. Canada is currently not on the schedule.


and Ringo was meeting with Canadian peeps in Sao Paulo this weekend. Apparently the founder of Circ du Sole is a HUGE F1 nut and is willing to plop some serious coin on a Canadian event

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I backed up the end of Inside GP yesterday to try to determine what tha limey was saying. Something about adding Dubia (or some other sand nation, there all the same to me. Dropping Canada and Monnnneequie (couldn't tell , even after 3 times, if he was saying Monaco) and would have 17 instead of 18 races next year. Brazil will not be the last it will be the sand nation listed above.

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Something about adding...


Just follow the money and that will tell you where the new GPs are taking place. Nouveau riche nations that want to show off.

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So Ryan, think Glock might replace Kovalainen soon?


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Matthew Fortner wrote:
So Ryan, think Glock might replace Kovalainen soon?


No, I don't think it was a conspiracy or rigged. I just thought that animated GIF was HILLARIOUS.

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I was just afraid my DVR was going to cut off before the end since they had the delay...


I'll give you a hundred bucks for a DVD of the race. :wink:

I missed it while at VIR.

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