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 Post subject: iPhone users weigh in
PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:44 pm 
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I am thinking about switching to an iPhone. I know several on here like them. My current phone is the Samsung Blackjack.

What I primarily use the phone for is surprise, making and receiving calls. How is the sound quality and antenna strength of the iPhone?

I have the data package on my current phone, so I do surf the web some and I average about 100 texts a month. Is having the whole thing a touch interface easier, better or the same as using a phone with the qwerty (sp?) keyboard?

Any thoughts or opinions are welcome!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:02 pm 
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Admittedly the iPhone is brilliant, but I'm waiting:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:59 pm 
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Compared to my old Palm Treo (600)...

I didn't have network on the Palm, so that is a non starter.

The iPhone gets better reception than the palm, and the interface is really cool. I'm admittedly an apple fanboi though. It's almost worth it for Google maps alone, even with GPS in the car, Google Maps is much faster for finding something (compared to my in dash Pioneer system).

If you do a lot of text or emailing, I don't think the iPhone is for you. One thing the Palm was better at is typing. There is something to be said for tactile feedback.

As a phone, my cheap Sony is just as good (though call quality on the iPhone is very good), and it's 50-50 which one I'll carry if I don't need data. The big plus for the iPhone is the iPod part. It keeps me from needing multiple devices (yeah, I know other phones do MP3's, but the iPhone is better at it).

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My iPhone was free (Edge version from the brother in law who upgraded to 3G and had "issues" with this one. I've had no issues).

I am using the phone via the ATT "GoPhone" pre-paid plan. 25 cents per minute flat rate, 15 cents per text message, and unlimited internet for $20/mo (something that I probably won't have every month).

The unlimited ATT internet for $20/month is a good discussion for another thread...

Heck, I could be talked into loaning it out for a week...

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Jeb, I love mine. I'm posting this from it now, in my hotel room out here at Nationals. It was invaluable on the trip - when Eric and I broke down, Google maps with integrate GPS was just what we needed to figure out where in Indiana we were.

I bought mine because my old Nokia smart phone broke, and I wanted an iPod anyway.

Call quality is fine and battery life is good too. Ichatge mine every night but only out of habit, not because I need to.

I'll put it this way. If this one died tonight, I'd buy another tomorrow. I am totally impressed with it. I even use it to tune my guitar!

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I don't have one, but tested one at the office for a week because I was going to get one. The biggest turn off for me Scott already mentioned. The texting and more importantly the email side is horrible. Those are the only aspects of the phone that don't flip like everything else, so you lose a lot of space for the keyboard that way. If the buttons were the standard keys of old, then the small keyboard wouldn't be an issue, but then the phone wouldn't be what it is.

Other than that annoying issue, I absolutely loved the phone. After they hopefully resolve that issue, I will probably be picking one up. Otherwise, I'll be staying with what I currently have. I will say this, if you are in an area where reception is coming and going, you will drain your battery real quick. While I was in the office, I had to plug it in 2-3 times a day to charge it. When I would get home though, I wouldn't have to charge it till the next day when I walked back in the office.


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I don't have the iPhone, but I do have an iPod touch that now uses pretty-much all the same applications and I am a complete convert. The apps you can download for the platform are pretty freakin sweet (free and pay).

I haven't tried it yet, but most are saying the Dynolicious iPhone dyno is worth the $13 ... just stick the phone in your cup holder or something and go.

As far as the typing thing... you get used to it. The word correction is pretty smart, so even someone with fat fingers like me can work it pretty well.

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Jeb,

I've got an ipod touch with the latest software update you can play with Sat. night. It's not an iphone, but you can certainly get a feel for the UI.

I've also got the Dynolicious app that Stacy mentioned and a bunch of other cool apps you can play with.

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I love mine (Edge Version). It's not the greatest for typing compared to treo's or blackberry's but you get used to it.. It's almost better not looking and what's being displayed on the screen and just type out the message and let the auto-correct work it's magic.

The call quality is as good or better than any of the other ATT phones I've had, but ATT's service can be spotty at times for me, it also seems like when I go between towers it sometimes will drop the call, but this happened on my previous ATT phones..

I'm not sure what kind of email setup you have but I have my connected to both my exchange server at work and my gmail account. Both work great and it keeps my email from both account separate. If you do connect to an exchange server viewing the calendar and contact can take a little time if you decide sync them.

I would buy one again.. but then again I'm turning into an apple fan-boy.

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 Post subject: 2nd Gen iphone
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:27 am 
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As bad as I wanted one, I waited for 2nd gen phone and I love it.
I'm not a touch typist so the keyboard is O.K. although I had to
adjust to it. My wife and daughter are both crackberry addicts and
hate typing on my iphone. Overall I would agree with Whitney,
"brilliant." Disclaimer- (Yes I am a Fanboy.)

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I've had an iPhone 3G for four weeks now, so I'll share my own impressions, both good AND bad. Hopefully, this will be helpful.

The good:
- Phone reception and call quality are as good or better than any other phone I've owned. People have told me that I sound much clearer than I used to on my previous phone, a Nokia 6682, or on my land line. Signal strength is comparable to Nokia. If the 3G signal gets weak, the phone switches to EDGE without a hiccup -- no dropped calls in my experience. The 3G coverage seems pretty good in the Triangle -- I seldom see the phone fall back on EDGE.

- All the phone features are easy to use. I love the ability to listen to my voicemail selectively -- you access it through a visual inbox, like an email client.

- PIM and email features work well. I use Gmail and Google Calendar, and Plaxo as my address book, so I could just use the excellent built-in browser. However, the client features are implemented so well that I've set up the phone to synch with my online accounts. Push email works perfectly, as does the calendar. Push email works with Exchange Server, Yahoo Mail, and MobileMe. Exchange and MobileMe also support push contacts and calendar. You can set the phone to fetch from Gmail or any other IMAP server every 15 minutes (or less frequently). This works perfectly, too.

- Internet connectivity and browsing experience is amazing. I do almost all of my personal "computing" online these days, so I wanted a phone with a good browser. The iPhone has more than exceeded my expectations in this regard. The browser is a REAL browser, not a WAP browser, so pages render as they would on a computer. The pinch and tilt features work better than advertised. The phone switches between 3G, Edge, and WiFi automatically and seamlessly, always choosing the fastest option. 3G connection speed is better than I expected.

- I actually like the on-screen keyboard. Since it's Querty, I find that I type text faster than I used to on a typical phone. The autocorrect feature is very smart and seamless, although kids might be frustrated when it corrects their l33t. I do realize that some people may miss the tactile aspect. I don't.

- The killer feature that leaves all other phones in the dust is the app store. I've found that I use my phone as a computer more than I use an actual computer. I could not have imagined that before I got the iPhone. Granted, a lot of the software in the app store is utter crap, but there are some seriously jaw-dropping exceptions. I'm not going to list every app that blew my mind, but I have to mention Dynolicious. (Anyone want to turn a local parking lot into a skidpad?)

- The SMS client implementation is slick. It has the look and feel of an instant messenger (iChat, specifically). For me, this is one of those pleasant surprises that changed how I use my phone. I used to text very sparingly, and given AT&T's unreasonably high (IMO) price for the SMS package, I wanted to get away from it. Instead, I've gone the other way -- I use it more often than I make phone calls -- it's just so efficient and easy.


The bad:
- The really disappointing and frustrating thing so far has been the "crashiness" of 3rd party apps. Seems like once you install a lot of them (>20, let's say), you start to experience random crashes. I've actually experienced a couple of occasions where ALL of the 3rd party apps would crash upon startup. What seems to have resolved the issue for me was deleting all the apps and reinstalling them on the phone directly from the app store, bypassing iTunes (you can reinstall paid apps for free). What a PITA! :banghead: While there may be some less than stable apps out there, by all accounts the fundamental problem is Apple's. Supposedly, the firmware upgrade that's coming out today will fix this, but we'll see...

- No cut-and-paste. I personally have not found this to be too much of an issue, but it is a common complaint on the internets.

- No MMS (multimedia messaging). Again, a common complaint that I have not had much of an issue with. The integration of email into the photo browser and other apps is so seamless that I've forgotten that I used to use MMS a lot on my previous phone.

- Relatively weak camera for this day and age: 2 megapixels and no video recording. My Nokia took terrible photos and unwatchable blurry video, so this is somewhat of a step up for me, though. I've used the camera a lot more than I expected to, but it would be nice to have better specs.

- Another non-issue for me that seems to bother others: You have to use iTunes to synch your music/video and install firmware updates. (I'm probably the only person out there who actually likes iTunes, but that may be because I don't use the bloated Windows version.)

- The iPhone is delicate. You must get a protective sleeve or case for it, and I would also recommend a screen protector.

Overall, the iPhone has exceeded my expectations. Until recently, I considered the iPhone to be a useless expensive toy and was planning to get a Blackberry Pearl. When Apple added 3rd party app support and dropped the price to $200, I decided to take a chance. It has been a pleasant surprise. Your mileage may vary.

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Great write-up Marek!

On the crashiness thing... I've read a couple places that after installing some apps, it helps to "reset" the iPhone (or iPod Touch) ... I think holding down the lock button will activate the reset feature (much like re-booting a PC... go figure!) I haven't felt the need to try it though. I had some crash issues on my touch on some early apps, but most that have been updated don't crash.

And I like iTunes too FWIW (then again, I'm coming from using Sony's Sonic Stage which is the Dark Lord of proprietary music management)... one thing I can't believe hasn't been mentioned is the video capability! Maybe its the iPhone's limited memory (can you get anything over 8 gig yet?) iTunes has tons of TV to purchase... many free video podcasts... etc. But best of all, all you torrent whores can convert your files to iPod compatible formats and have crap to watch when you're bored!

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Stacy King wrote:
Great write-up Marek!

Thanks!

Stacy King wrote:
On the crashiness thing... I've read a couple places that after installing some apps, it helps to "reset" the iPhone (or iPod Touch) ... I think holding down the lock button will activate the reset feature (much like re-booting a PC... go figure!)

You're right, Stacy. This is the first thing Apple support tells you to try. I haven't had much luck with this method, however. On one occasion I've actually had apps crashing after the hard reset. No kidding -- I installed a couple of apps, everything worked fine, but for reasons I don't remember I decided to hard reset the iPhone anyway. After that I couldn't run ANY of the apps -- they were all crashing on startup, not just the two I had just installed. Odd... I seem to have a gift for breaking stuff in unique ways. :?

Downloading the 2.1 firmware update right now...

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I am on my 3rd one. The first one locked up and just quit working. The second one the vibrate would not work when I got a call. So far my 3rd one is working perfectly.

Even with the problems I have had I still love it. They are super easy to use and I agree with everyone else about the apps, they are pretty damn cool.

This company makes a car integration kit. http://www.diceelectronics.com/ The current connection cord they have will not charge it, but that is supposed to change this month. I am really enjoying the ipod and am looking forward to using it in the car.

I have heard some complaints about security issues and it does not support all of the business applications that the windows based phones do. Dook uses lotus notes and apple does not support it.

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This company makes a car integration kit. http://www.diceelectronics.com/ The current connection cord they have will not charge it, but that is supposed to change this month. I am really enjoying the ipod and am looking forward to using it in the car.


This is what I use and it works pretty well (the FM trasmitter is kinda weak, so it varies from radio to radio... but it charges, and it has adapters for every iPod ever made it seems...

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Ah the price of early adoption. My wife has one, but the lack of flash support and VPN prompted me to get a Nokia N800...not a phone...a touch on steroids.


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