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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:06 pm 
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In case anyone isn't aware of the traction differences between ice at about 32 F and ice at 20 - 25 F, here is a comparison.

I live on a street with a fairly gentle uphill and stop sign at a major street. I HAVE to stop due to poor visibility! My street was covered with hard ice this morning and this evening. Our 97 Mustang with good all season tires got out just fine this morning when the ice was cold and dry. However, this evening when I tried to leave to pick up Kelly at work the temp was about 32 and the ice was wet. No go no matter how many times I tried and no matter what tricks I used. The car actually wanted to slide back down the hill.

Since Kelly didn't really want to stay at work all night, I tried plan B which was put the Dunlop Graspic snow/ice tires on the rear. (the tires and tools were ready if needed). Solved the problem. Not by much but every little bit counts.

Another example (if you are still reading) was years ago in the Boston area. Another Mustang (1969 GT) on regular (not studded) snow tires. Level parking place. Again, wet slightly lumpy ice. Car wouldn't move. Finally tried a trick a fellow soldier showed me (I think he was drunk when he did it). Let clutch out in second gear at idle. Watch tires spin (with positraction). Get out of car (I was alone). Push car (feet got traction) until it starts to move. Jump in. Drive away . . . very slowly.

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Another trick is to carry around 20 or so 3' sections of clothes line. Car gets stuck, you get out tie the clothes lines around the tire, and instant traction. Once you get unstuck, take a knife cut the rope off and drive on. This works incredibly well in most cars, but you do have to carefull and make sure the rope clears everything on the inside of the wheel. (brakes, vehicle speed sensors, et al)


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Joseph Volk wrote:
Another trick is to carry around 20 or so 3' sections of clothes line. Car gets stuck, you get out tie the clothes lines around the tire, and instant traction. Once you get unstuck, take a knife cut the rope off and drive on. This works incredibly well in most cars, but you do have to carefull and make sure the rope clears everything on the inside of the wheel. (brakes, vehicle speed sensors, et al)


Boy, and I thought I knew every winter driving stuck car trick in the book! That's a good one! I always carried around a couple of the sample rug pieces, the carpet stores would give them away or sell them for a 1.00 when a color or pattern was discontinued. I'd shove one back side down under the wheel that was spinning on the ice. Had to be a little careful tho as sometimes it would come shooting out the back and could bowl over a helper pushing. I used the put it in second and get out to push trick a couple times myself.
If you have hard polished or wet ice, it doesn't much matter what kind of tires (except studded) you have. The coefficient of friction between cold rubber and ice is nearly zero.

Chuck, who did a fine one man luge impression all the way down his ice covered driveway to the street without a sled this morning when his rubber soled shoes broke traction. :oops:

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Chuck Frank wrote:
I always carried around a couple of the sample rug pieces, the carpet stores would give them away or sell them for a 1.00 when a color or pattern was discontinued. I'd shove one back side down under the wheel that was spinning on the ice. Had to be a little careful tho as sometimes it would come shooting out the back and could bowl over a helper pushing.


Reminds me of a story my Dad told me about a friend of his. His friend had a delivery truck (UPS, FedEx, someone like that) get stuck in his driveway (snow/ice). They ended up with the bright idea of putting a piece of wood in front of the rear tire (2x6 or something like that) for traction.

So while the delivery guy was driving my Dad's friends is pushing on the rear. Yeah, you know what happens next.... :( The wood shoots out at Mach 1 and he ends up needing a good bit of surgery to put his lower leg/foot back together again. :shock:

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I learned that trick, oh, about three days after getting stuck at a friends house for 4 hours with a 1/4" of snow and Azenis on the car.


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Chuck Frank wrote:
I always carried around a couple of the sample rug pieces, the carpet stores would give them away or sell them for a 1.00 when a color or pattern was discontinued. I'd shove one back side down under the wheel that was spinning on the ice.


Similar to Chuck's carpet principal I had to use another strange idea. Back in 1988 I owned a '86 Chevy Camaro 5.0L w/ 4BBL carb and the 4A tranny. This car would get stuck on wet grass so snow was a definite hurdle.

After being snowed in at a friend's place (out in the county) for two days I had to go. My friend's wife had a FWD Cadillac and he drove right out with no problem. However all my car would do was spin one rear tire. Then we had a brainstorm.

We decided the car needed "snowshoes" to get out of the yard with 6" of snow. All we could find was the window screens on the house so we thought...what the hell. We put one in front of all four tires and moved forward onto them. We had eight total so we just rotated them along and it worked!

Of course the screens were useless afterwards, but I learned a valuable lesson. When it's supposed to snow 6" park near the damn highway and FWD is 200% better!

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Win autoxes... check

Win rallycrosses... check

Get pointed by 300ZX TT's on track... check

Refuse to get stuck in ANYTHING (so far - but I've been trying)... check

Carry 4 comfortable adult humans... check

Is there anything my car can't do?

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Oh yeah, that's right - "stay clean." :lol:


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