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I just did a regular wash today with Zaino car wash, and I added two capfuls of ONR to the wash bucket. It did an amazing job when drying off the car -- no streaking at all, easy and quick to dry, and the car looks outstanding. This stuff continues to impress me.

Ken Stark (http://www.detailguru.com) was here a couple of weeks ago, and he was highly suspect of this stuff as he's seen a lot of BS products over the years; however, after trying it on his own vehicles, he's really impressed with it also. He has some other product samples the company (http://www.optimumcarcare.com/index2.html)sent to him, and I'm waiting to hear back from him on how they work.

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Current stable:
2019 BMW M2 Competition slicktop 6MT
2011 BMW M3 sedan slicktop 6MT
2007 BMW 328i wagon (slushbox for now)
1975 CanAm 125MX2

Any reports yet on how much this stuff dissolves wax? From sniffing the ONR that I have been using (and very happy with) it smells ammonia-based, making it essentially Windex-in-a-bucket. One advantage of regular gentle car wash soap is that it is very mild and shouldn't affect the wax layer much, so it has me wondering if we're wearing out the wax more quickly than regular car wash. I wonder what the chemistry is of ONR and if it dissolves wax, and if it contains something to replace it.

FYI After washing with ONR I've been using the towel to wash the inside of my windows. Works as well or better than windex...

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Mike Whitney
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V10, V8, V8t, I6, I6, V6, F4t, I4, I4, I4, I4, I2, 1, 1

I have no idea Mike, but I agree on the window cleaning. It does an incredible job on windows with no streaking. I wouldn't think it was just Windex-in-a-bucket as it seems to leave some sort of polymer coating? I know it doesn't have any silicones (that are often used in products to fill (temporarily) scratches).

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Current stable:
2019 BMW M2 Competition slicktop 6MT
2011 BMW M3 sedan slicktop 6MT
2007 BMW 328i wagon (slushbox for now)
1975 CanAm 125MX2

After doing the waxer Zaino multi step process on 2 cars. It beats the daylights out of Rejex. Considering how little you use to do the car the price is not really that bad at all. I'll be curious to see how long it lasts.

I still think on wheels, for brake dust, that Rejex or Wheel Wax might be a better choice. I did my uncoated CCW wheels with Mothers Aluminum Polish followed by a coat of Zaino #2. It didn't take much effort to wash off the brake dust after a week of driving.

I'm about to Zaino the beater with the $30 Rustoleum Black, roller paint job. I really need to get back out on track...

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He was talking yesterday about Zainoing the Lawn tractor, the weedeater and the event the microwave yesterday. All the good work we've done converting him from waxer wannabe to track junkie is starting to be undone.

For washing now that the water restrictions have been lifted, I think I've found my new favorite soap:

http://www.majesticsolutionsinc.com/ultragloss.html

Local place that apparently makes all their stuff in house. Good place to pick up MF towels too. This soap is wonderful - impossibly slippery and makes really good suds.

I may bring some ONR to those guys shop, and let them see if they can figure out what's in it. For my part, I've noticed no evidence of wax getting stripped when using it (and I use it a lot).

Funny that it works on windows too - I'd never noticed. I started using Stoner Invisible Glass a couple years ago and basically refuse to change.

I should stop now.

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Karl S.
2014 Baby, 2014 House, 2013 Ford Focus ST, 2013 BMW 328i, 1994 Mercedes E320
(Insert passive aggressive signature line here)

Maybe in Raleigh has lifted its restrictions, but for some reason Durham is still on Stage III restrictions. Regarding washing cars:
"Do NOT wash the exterior of a motor vehicle except where a private well system is used, or where 50 percent or more of the water is recycled or where it can be demonstrated that 30 gallons of water or less are used to wash the vehicle. "

No, I don't know why. Both of Durham's reserviors are completely full. The only thing I've heard the city manager say to defend the policy is that Falls Lake wasn't full (the discharge from Durham's reserviors, and one of the sewage plants feeds into Falls Lake). However, I'm starting to think that if floodwaters from Falls Lake put downtown Raleigh under 20 feet of water, he would think of SOME reason to persist with the restrictions.

End of rant.

I like the Optimum no-rinse product. Even if I was allowed to use the water that I buy from the city as I see fit (oops, ranting again), it gives me the option of washing the car in my garage. However, I've noticed it leaves a film on the windshield. Not noticable until you run the wipers, then you get a little smudge at the end of each wiper's travel.

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Art McDonald
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2008 Dishman Cup
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Rodney is a waxer (but in a good way)

I have used several products from majestic solutions. Their Bio clean is great for getting acid rain spots out of glass. I have used their metal polish and it give a shine to aluminum or stainless with very little elbow grease. Any time Ever Ready went there with a cleaning problem they had something that worked and worked very well. Some of their stuff is pricey but it get the job done.

Commercial over

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George Bright Member # 141
One of the youngest of the old farts.
Yes I voted against you joining the club.

I've been seriously considering building a flowmeter for my hose. Think I could probably wash a car with less than 30 gallons.

Do I need to wear gold chains when using this stuff or is a regular torn tee shirt OK?

Ron

Interesting that we now see articles about how Falls Lake is a foot above normal, etc, but how "Water usage is also on the rise, however, at an average of 40.7 million gallons per day. That is 2.8 million gallons more than the lowest value recorded during Stage II water restrictions" per today's WRAL article. http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/2839502/

What they don't point out is the massive outflow that has been unleashed in the past four weeks but instead make it sound like people are wasting our precious resource. Yesterday's outflow from Falls Dam averaged 555 million gallons of water -- over half a billion gallons in one day. Back at the peak of the water restriction point, it was running 18.7 millions gallons per day. The water use in Raleigh right now is trivial compared to the massive releases that have been going on the past six weeks as just yesterday almost 14 times the average daily use was released from the lake.

Since April 7th when they dramatically increased the outflow (see data link), they've let 9.6 billion gallons out of the lake while Raleigh has used 1.18 billion.

I would think they could let the lake fill a good bit over the normal level, but I imagine the Corps is scared of a summer tropical storm/hurricane hitting requiring a massive release or something. Anyway, just wanted to rant how the media won't cover the release rate from the dam but just wants to try to make people feel like conserving water is really required right now...and I'm not even on city water but hate to see facts hidden for some other purpose...

If you're interested in the releases from Falls Dam along with Raleigh water usage, here's the link: http://epec.saw.usace.army.mil/dss180f.txt. The values are in cfs (cubic feet per second). To convert to gallons per day multiply times 646,358.4. (i.e. 1 ft^3/sec x 448.86 x 60 min/hr x 24 hr/day).

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Current stable:
2019 BMW M2 Competition slicktop 6MT
2011 BMW M3 sedan slicktop 6MT
2007 BMW 328i wagon (slushbox for now)
1975 CanAm 125MX2