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 Post subject: Anyone here a Ron Paul supporter?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:05 am 
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Just curious if anyone else in the club is rooting "for the constitution" in the upcoming elections. I'm considering volunteering some time and energy to support him, if anyone is already active I'd like to hear about it.

Oh wait, that's right, it's not polite to talk about politics in public :) Oh well, we're all family here right? Wheeeee!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:14 am 
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Ohhh dear lord.... there goes the neighborhood.

Dr. Paul has some GREAT ideas. Dr. Paul also has a way of pissing everyone off in the room in about 3 sentences. If Dr. Paul would use a little more honey and a little less battery acid he might be able to do a bit more.

Mike, are you the one hanging Ron Paul bedsheets from overpasses in Raleigh?

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Ryan Holton wrote:
Ohhh dear lord.... there goes the neighborhood.


It's like kudzu.

Edit: I'll let the man hang himself. 4 parts on Youtube from his Meet the Press interview last month beginning here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDw03JXigA

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hadn't really heard much about him, but the more I read, the more I like, he IS a Duke grad afterall :D

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Ryan Holton wrote:
Mike, are you the one hanging Ron Paul bedsheets from overpasses in Raleigh?


On the Beltline on-ramp from Glenwood going west, there is a downed tree that has been there for months with a Ron Paul sticker on it that marks the first apex of the double apex sweeper. :D Mike at work I assume.

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There's also a sign like this on the long exit ramp going from 440 to Capital Blvd. north that I see every morning. Right next to a huge guardrail that was majorly uprooted buy an 18-wheeler I suspect.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:04 am 
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I'm amazed the republican party is letting a drag queen run. . .

Wait.

Wrong Paul.

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Hmm, guess that would be a "no".

Am I the only one worried about the projection of a 90% income tax rate in 30 years when Social Security goes bankrupt? Seems to me the only way to shore up the fed gov't is, well, to make it smaller. Paul's the only one I have heard from with a plan to do that and give more power back to the states. Hmm, maybe I'm a closet confederate.

(PS I know he's unelectable. I don't care about that, I'm going to write him in anyways. Eventually the parties will lose enough votes to people like me to be forced to pay attention)

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MikeWhitney wrote:
Am I the only one worried about the projection of a 90% income tax rate in 30 years when Social Security goes bankrupt?


Ahhhh someone else who has seen the chart of pain. Yeah it gets REAL ugly unless we do something, the longer we wait, the more it hurts.

Social Security is manageable (sortof), its MEDICARE that is really gonna shoot the screws to us.

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I saw his blimp fly over RDU a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately, they only put his name on the left side fo the blimp. :whoknows:

That's all I have about Ron Paul.

Crappy pic with some cool lens flares. Taken from the top of our hangar at RDU.

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I hate to admit it but I have become so apathetic when it comes to politics. I have enough things to keep my blood pressure up so I just mostly stay away. I think mike is 100% right that we need smaller government but that is like asking a patient to amputate their own arm, probably not going to happen.

I have to say when my 20 year old daughter asked if I like Ron Paul because she thought we shared similiar philosophies I was a little taken back because I thought she was comparing me to Spratte's drag queen :lol:

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If you’re worried about social security, stick with the candidates that realistically address the problem. Stop the mass migration of illegals into this country, and most certainly don't give them carte blanche with our social security benefits. My last visit to the SS office in Durham left me amazed there were forty or so folks in there. Three black men, one black woman, two white guys (one of them being me) I put them in one group as English speaking Americans, and all the rest were Hispanic some could speak English, most could not or would not. Folks that looked to be in their sixties or of retirement age, were as you may have already guessed, the six English speaking entities. I'm sure that more than a few of the people of Hispanic origin were legal aliens or citizens, but a large number I'm sure were not. Multiply this by all the SS offices throughout the country and you have the heart of our most pressing problem. This immigration stresses not only social security but our basic infrastructure, such as schools, utilities, water, highways and the list goes on...Just my humble opinion based on experiences I've had... I like Fred Thompson, he's the only one with the courage to address this..


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MikeWhitney wrote:
Hmm, guess that would be a "no".

Am I the only one worried about the projection of a 90% income tax rate in 30 years when Social Security goes bankrupt? Seems to me the only way to shore up the fed gov't is, well, to make it smaller. Paul's the only one I have heard from with a plan to do that and give more power back to the states. Hmm, maybe I'm a closet confederate.

(PS I know he's unelectable. I don't care about that, I'm going to write him in anyways. Eventually the parties will lose enough votes to people like me to be forced to pay attention)


Mike,

I didn't mean to make light of your original post...just thought that sticker on the tree was kind of funny.

In a nutshell, one of the main problems is this country has gotten big, fat dumb and happy. History is not kind to countries, corporations and people who have worked themselves into such. Paul rightly states some things that should have been done a long time ago by now. However, when we're big, fat dumb and happy, nobody wants to experience the relative pain required to right many years of largess. That will be forced on the system at some point, especially if we continue to be uncompetitive with other countries with tax rates on risk taking (some candidates want to raise taxes on such!) -- just look at how Germany has really reinvigorated their economy with significant cuts in tax rates in recent years (and I had almost given up on high corporate tax Europeans!).

Anyway, to "fix" a lot of the situation this country is in now will unfortunately not be something you can convince people to vote for...they'd rather roll the dice, push the pain further into the future and party some more on home equity I guess.

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I've got a solution: I'm retiring to Spain. Something nice on the coast.

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David Spratte wrote:
I've got a solution: I'm retiring to Spain. Something nice on the coast.


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