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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:39 pm 
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One other thing to throw into the equation is that it is only €24,269 or even more to the point £17,402. These are insanely cheap prices for this car in Europe where it will sell for far more. I suppose one way to look at it is the world (well Europe and Australia at least) is supplementing the US market by paying so much more for European cars than us. With the dollar having lost more than 40% of its value versus the Euro in the past five years alone, it is amazing that European car makers can still make money selling in the USA. Also, given what the C$ has done in the past few years, BMW is doing much better selling into Canada than here...by far. ...kind of a sad statement on the US dollar... I'm not sure many people in the US realize how much poorer they have become in the past 5 years versus a lot of the world.

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i voted against "HIM" twice. and yet he has maintained his monarchy. depressing actually.

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steve remchak wrote:
i voted against "HIM" twice. and yet he has maintained his monarchy. depressing actually.


The dollar trend has zero to do with politics. :wink:

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Chuck Branscomb wrote:
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i voted against "HIM" twice. and yet he has maintained his monarchy. depressing actually.


The dollar trend has zero to do with politics. :wink:


you vote for what you believe in Chuck, and so will i. we can agree to disagree. diesel fuel cost $1.45 a gallon 4 years ago. my material and shipping costs have skyrocketed. petroleum rules the world.

why would anyone invest in an economy based on deficit spending? is it any wonder the dollar isn't worth a damn. please remember, i am probably just as misinformed as the average american voter and frankly i am fed up with the entire bunch of bullshit perpetrated on the us public during "Duffus'" reign. :wink: :wink:

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Like I said, the trend in place with the dollar has nothing to do with politics, and I wasn't making a political statement by saying that. This has been my field of specialty for more than 15 years now...trendfollowing financial markets.

As far as politics go, I've never found it worthwhile or even interesting to discuss such on the Internet.

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Chuck Branscomb wrote:
Like I said, the trend in place with the dollar has nothing to do with politics, and I wasn't making a political statement by saying that. This has been my field of specialty for more than 15 years now...trendfollowing financial markets.

As far as politics go, I've never found it worthwhile or even interesting to discuss such on the Internet.

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point taken Sir. cheers

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The Sandlapper chapter of the BMW CCA had another autocross on the track(s) at the BMW Performance Center in Spartanburg yesterday, and it was even more fun than last time --a bit more open in a couple of spots that really allowed you to let it loose. If you think the last Sanford event was a fast autox, this one would blow you away. I had the M5 deep into third gear in numerous places along with elements completed with a quick lift and back onto the throttle...in 3rd gear (i.e. 2nd runs out on this car ~65mph). I upheld the THSCC banner pretty well I suppose by claiming FTD. :) PC staff worked the course in X5s, so no course working was required. You have to be a CCA member and can only drive a BMW or Mini, but if anyone is interested, there will probably be another event in the Spring. Ash (William), Jackie and I were wondering about how David Spratte would do there in the Mini…maybe next time David?

Ok, back on topic. I saw the 135i there this weekend along with the new E92 M3. We couldn't sit in them, and they weren't allowed to start them either. :( Also, we're not allowed to post pictures of them. All that said, the 135i looks pretty goofy in person imo. From front on it is way too narrow versus its height -- definitely needs to be lowered (the one there had the sport package so it was already a bit lower). It also had 4-wheel Brembo 4 piston caliper brakes -- a first for a modern BMW. The front calipers looked huge.

The M3 looks better in person than in the pictures, and it looks humongous sitting next to the 135i. Looking over the car from the outside (and laying down and inspecting the undersides), it exudes quality materials and assembly. There's not much else I can say since these are already in the hands of owners in Europe, etc, only to reemphasize that it does look better in person than pictures.

Back to the 135 for a moment. You can really sort of see how it is an E46-type chassis with E90-type stuff grafted onto it, at least that is how it appears to me. If it came with a limited slip, I could overlook all the goofiness I guess, but I imagine it is going to sell fairly well as it is. If they had properly (imo) priced its base price about 5k lower, it would be a sell out. At the price point they selected, my advice is: 335i.

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how did you find out about this autocross? I couldn't find it on their website. I'd be interested in doing this (or letting my wife do it) for the spring event, sounds like a TON of fun.

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how did you find out about this autocross? I couldn't find it on their website. I'd be interested in doing this (or letting my wife do it) for the spring event, sounds like a TON of fun.


The Sandlapper chapter has a horrible web site that is out of date, etc. When you are a CCA member, you can opt to also join other chapters, so in addition to the Tarheel chapter, I'm a member of Sandlapper and National Capital, hence I get their newsletters and e-mails. I think it is $10/year to join other chapters btw.

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Ash (William), Jackie and I were wondering about how David Spratte would do there in the Mini…maybe next time David?


Sounds like it'd be a blast Chuck! Do they have a date yet? If you could send me registration/membership stuff I'll sign up.

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Got it figured out. I wonder why I haven't joined 'til now?

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