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Which Miata for Jeb?
1993 67%  67%  [ 8 ]
1994 33%  33%  [ 4 ]
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I voted '93 because of the lower miles and hardtop. The improved gas mileage is sort of nice too. My '95 got in the low 20's while most people report high 20's city and mid 30's hwy on the 1.6 cars.

--Kevin H.


I have had my 92 for a while now and have never seen 30 mpg even on long road trips like my wife and I took in the spring. I think that mid to hig 20's is acceptable. Plus, most people don't buy Miata for the gas mileage. They buy them because they are fun cars to drive. As a matter of fact, they get miserable mileage for what they are. A 1.6L light weight 2 seat roadster with minimal safety gear should get MUCH better mileage than it does.

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Todd Breakey wrote:
I have had my 92 for a while now and have never seen 30 mpg even on long road trips like my wife and I took in the spring. I think that mid to hig 20's is acceptable. Plus, most people don't buy Miata for the gas mileage. They buy them because they are fun cars to drive. As a matter of fact, they get miserable mileage for what they are. A 1.6L light weight 2 seat roadster with minimal safety gear should get MUCH better mileage than it does.


If someone wants a car that gets horrible mileage, pick yourself up an RX-8. You'll be lucky to get 23mpg cruising on the highway and around town if you get on it at all you are looking at the mid to upper teens. :( - AB

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Will vote for the 93 also, because that's what I got. :lol:
For gas mileage I'm getting around 27-28 mpg commuting to work. Saw 33-34 mpg on long interstate trip.

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Kevin Hoff wrote:
I voted '93 because of the lower miles and hardtop. The improved gas mileage is sort of nice too. My '95 got in the low 20's while most people report high 20's city and mid 30's hwy on the 1.6 cars.

--Kevin H.


I have had my 92 for a while now and have never seen 30 mpg even on long road trips like my wife and I took in the spring. I think that mid to hig 20's is acceptable. Plus, most people don't buy Miata for the gas mileage. They buy them because they are fun cars to drive. As a matter of fact, they get miserable mileage for what they are. A 1.6L light weight 2 seat roadster with minimal safety gear should get MUCH better mileage than it does.


I'd have to agree with Todd. None of my stock 1.6L's ever got more than about 32mpg on the highway. And that was only if I kept it down to a dull roar. I've only owned NB 1.8L's and both of them got/get ~25mpg city and no more than 30mpg highway.

On the other hand, my old turbo 1.8L would occasionally hit mid to high 30's on the highway at a reasonable cruising speed but that thing wasn't exactly stock. The turbo seemed to help the part-throttle efficiency but that would obviously go straight to pot once I leaned into the throttle. I'd average around 23mpg in the city and dip into the high-teens if I was driving like a hooligan.

I think the big problem is the relatively short 5th (or 6th if equipped) gear and associated final drive. I see a lot more highway rpm's in a Miata than most other 4-cylinder cars I've owned. It also doesn't help that they have the aerodynamic profile of an average city bus.

As far as your choice, if you really are going to supercharge it at some point, I'd go for the 1.8L. It already has all the part you'll wind up replacing on the 1.6L anyway.

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I really appreciate everyone's input and recommendations. For now the 1993 is the front runner. I got to see the 95 today and really, it is ok, but not what the 1993 seems to be. Evidently it is some rare blue color that is one of about 5000 cars. Doesn't have power windows. The water pump was replaced when the timing belt was so that has been done. The owner is really set on that $5k price which is at the very high end of what I was hoping to spend. Oh, it doesn't have the torsen rear end.

I mentioned supercharging. That is a possible long term goal. I understand the 1.8 to be the better platform, but if it can be done on the 1.6, I will just address that when and if that arises.

So on Sunday, I am hoping to check the 93 out in person and hopefully make a decision. If I still have a cold feet feeling, I may pass and see what else becomes available. I also figure for that price and mileage and my limited driving of it that even in a couple of years, I could sell the car for close to what I am going to pay.

Are any of you owner/experts around on Sunday and want to go with me to look at this car?


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Evidently it is some rare blue color that is one of about 5000 cars.


Rare??

<--Owner of a Sunburst Yellow Miata 1 of ~1500!!! :lol:

BTW - If you are there on Saturday, you are more than welcome to take a run in my car. It's a 92 on Koni yellows with GC standard springs (I need heavier springs on the car to make it *right* oh, new bushings would be nice too.).

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Jeb Brookshire wrote:
Evidently it is some rare blue color that is one of about 5000 cars.



That would be Mariner Blue if its the blue I am thinking of. Nice color IMHO.

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Mariner Blue screams for orange Gulf livery stripes IMHO.

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My sister bought Jim F's Mariner (sometimes called "smurf") blue with the hard top and I have to admit, the blue top on the Yellow Miata looks pretty hawt!

I'll post pics when I get home.

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My sister bought Jim F's Mariner


Has she driven it yet?

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I don't believe they had Mariner blue in the 94+ cars. I think he is talking about Montego blue, which was rare, and is very pretty. Jim Pastorius Miata was Mariner blue.... a color only a person with color blindness could love :) - AB

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Mariner blue.... a color only a person with color blindness could love :) - AB


Hey now, I liked my smurf car!

Besides, you should have seen all the attention I used to get when I would pull up next to a minivan full of 12-year old girls! They would all lean out and giggle and tell me how cute my car was. You simply can't buy that kind of respect! :D

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JamesFeinberg wrote:
Aaron Buckley wrote:
Mariner blue.... a color only a person with color blindness could love :) - AB


Hey now, I liked my smurf car!

Besides, you should have seen all the attention I used to get when I would pull up next to a minivan full of 12-year old girls! They would all lean out and giggle and tell me how cute my car was. You simply can't buy that kind of respect! :D


I have two words for you: Smart Car. You want attention, get one. I've had mine two days now and it's been crazy everywhere I've been. Store attendants leave their post to come see it. People yell at you at stop lights. Parking attendants at decks hold up traffic to get you to tell them about it. People just look and laugh.

Okay, so maybe it's not "respect" at all. But neither is what Jim F was talking about. ;)


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Donnie Barnes wrote:
<some stuff> Smart Car <some more stuff>


Did the SEB ever get around to classing one of those things? :)

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Okay, so maybe it's not "respect" at all. But neither is what Jim F was talking about. ;)


I'm almost positive I was getting respect out of the minivan filled with 12-year old girls.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure the minivan filled with 14-year old girls were just mocking me. I hate them! :cryin:

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