Nissan GT-R laps the ring in 7:35

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:25 am

[sarcastic mode on]We are all entitled to our opinions, but your's is just plain wrong!![sarcastic mode off]

I've always wanted to post that somewhere. :lol:

I'll give you the previous gen Monaro, but the new one looks like an angry badger.

I haven't seen good pictures of the new Maxima yet (maybe because I'm not that interested in the car :shrug: ) so I'll withhold comment for the time being.

The rest are just boring. This is coming from a guy who owns a Miata, Impreza, Mustang and a Sienna. So take all comments with a grain of salt. :wink:

Stacy King · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:28 am

Bernie Baake wrote:

No threat at all Marty. the ZR1 already laid down a 7:26 with a GM engineer driving it bone stock with pump gas. I'd settle for slower than drive something thats just Butt Fugly.

Are those extra few seconds worth another $50 grand to ya Bernie?

Look... this is all pointless... The GT-R has never been an exercise in beauty, its always been a flagship of technology and this one is no different. Nissan has been able to match and often surpass just about every performance benchmark set by cars costing 50%, 100%, 200% more... in a car thats generally 33% heavier than the others, has back seats, can be driven every day... EVEN IN SNOW! (ok, that might be a stretch, but still)

It might be ugly to most, but it sure as hell deserves a little respect.

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:30 am

Well said

Most people also don't realize the hsitory and racing pedigree of the GT-R since it never made it to the US until now.

The Skyline GT/GT-R has been around since 1957, not quite a old as the vette, but only a few years younger. Blame all the hype and misconceptions on the F&F crowds who only know it by the games they play

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:38 am

I haven't heard...how much is the GT-R? I honestly haven't researched it at all.

I guess I was never a fan of the old one and am probably a little jaded.

Hell, I don't think I ever even drove it in GT4.

Stacy King · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:40 am

Todd Breakey wrote:

I haven't heard...how much is the GT-R? I honestly haven't researched it at all.

Marty can answer more accurately probably, but MSRP is around $75k I think.

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:50 am

$69,850 base. There's aren't many options so it tops out at about $75K.

Right in line with the Z06.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:12 am

Yeah, I'm a GT-R "hater", but it's definitely not because of some Z06 bias, that's for sure. And while you can compare the sticker to the Z06 if you want, the fact remains that you can't buy one for near sticker so that's fairly irrelevant.

The real comparison that should be made is between the GT-R and the M3. Other than looks, it's simply a much better M3 in about every way. Like Stacy said, it's got back seats and plenty of room to be a fairly comfortable daily driver. Unfortunately, Nissan positioned it so dang exclusively that it's still not really fair to compare them that way...

And while I say it's ugly, I do have plenty of respect for it. It's a shame C&D had the thing on shitty rubber for the One Lap. It would have done much better on decent tires.

--Donnie

Les Davis · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:04 pm **Posts:** 2059

No vette ego here, and just because I think the new GT-R is butt fugly, doesn't mean I don't respect it and its heritage. I have "virtually owned" several beloved Skyline GT-Rs (R32, 33, 34s) in various Grand Turismo iterations over the years. I even liked the looks of the older ones, the new one just looks awkward to me. I also don't care for the clear section of hood on the new ZR1.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:47 pm

ok it is ugly. but my major point of contention is this, it is supposedly a mainstream supercar (ala Corvette) from a mainstream manufacturer. but the average Nissan buyer doesn't go out everyday and buy a $75k car. who exactly is their target audience?

sure there are some old school Nissan guys that may show up at the track and take us all to the woodshed with this thing, but i personally feel this car will be a rare sight pretty much on the street and the track. an anomaly as it were. hell the Mitsu Evo is one hell of a car, supposedly.

how many times have any of us been on the track with a NSX? the boys from Chin sport them, but otherwise quite a rarity.

yet everyday, i seem to somehow run across a Z06 somewhere somehow. i'm just sayin' yohe. :lol:

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Porsche calls bullshit on Nissan's 'Ring times.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/pors ... -the-ring/

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:35 am

Wes Eargle wrote:

Porsche calls bullshit on Nissan's 'Ring times.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/pors ... -the-ring/

I guess Nissan was surprised the custom made 20" Hoosier A6s on the GTR lasted the whole lap.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:22 am

If there were 20" Hoosiers made at all, you'd be able to buy them yourself. According to Jeff Speer at Hoosier, there's no way to make a "custom" tire. If they make a tire size once, they can simply put it into production. It takes making a mold anyway, and if they have a mold, they make the tire.

I know you were joking, but...

At any rate, those manufacturer "stock" 'Ring times are supposed to be on OEM tires. The OEM tire on that car is shit compared to a Neova or PS2...that's something the One Lap easily proved. I was skeptical of those times, too.

--Donnie

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:11 pm

It will be interesting to see what independent testing (such as by the German magazine "Sport Auto") shows with OEM tires.

Regarding custom tires, I think you could have a tire building using an existing mold, but with custom compound. But I would doubt most tire manufactures would care to go to this level to help someone set fast Nurburgring times?

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Richard Casto wrote:

Regarding custom tires, I think you could have a tire building using an existing mold, but with custom compound. But I would doubt most tire manufactures would care to go to this level to help someone set fast Nurburgring times?

They did it to win SCCA autocross titles, why wouldn't they do it to sell cars?

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:10 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

Richard Casto wrote:

Regarding custom tires, I think you could have a tire building using an existing mold, but with custom compound. But I would doubt most tire manufactures would care to go to this level to help someone set fast Nurburgring times?

They did it to win SCCA autocross titles, why wouldn't they do it to sell cars?

You can definitely do THAT. But Hoosier has no 20" size, so that requires another new mold that if they made at all, they'd offer tires for sale from it. No reason not to. That's all I was saying.

Lots of tire companies make special sauce compounds for the runoffs and such.

--Donnie

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