Nissan GT-R laps the ring in 7:35

Patrice Bousquet · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:44 pm

That episode is good and she is an excellent driver.
My best time last year with the A3 TurboDiesel for the same Bridge to Gantry within tourist traffic, was 9:37.

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:31 am

Video from Nissan of a 7:38 run...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg

Based upon tire noise, I am guessing these are not racing slicks. Looks to be a well driven lap with zero traffic and good conditions. It will be interesting to see what times independent testers will generate.

Patrice Bousquet · **Posted:** Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:31 pm

Richard Casto wrote:

Video from Nissan of a 7:38 run...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg

+ 5 sec. If you look carefully the start point is not the same than the finish point. They used the Normal start point for the lap but stop the timer just after the last corner. So for a complete lap you need to add about 5 sec. If you look back at the beginning of the video you will see it. So it's more like 7:43...

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:21 am

This has been argued on several boards and forums, the the starting and stopping points are the standard ones for those going for official times. I don't know why there isn't a single start/finish, but the points used are the same ones that most testers and manufacturers use. It's an official time.

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:54 am

Patrice Bousquet wrote:

Richard Casto wrote:

Video from Nissan of a 7:38 run...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg

+ 5 sec. If you look carefully the start point is not the same than the finish point. They used the Normal start point for the lap but stop the timer just after the last corner. So for a complete lap you need to add about 5 sec. If you look back at the beginning of the video you will see it. So it's more like 7:43...

I can't believe it! That is such a momumental screw up! It is a good 3-5 seconds short of where they started the lap.

Patrice Bousquet · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:02 am

In GT4 I got the concept version of this car. So I give it a try on the Ring last night. The only think I change on the car was the tire.
I put the S3 tire ( best sport tire) and an oil change that bring the HP to 477. My best time was 7:15 but in the game the lap time is counted at the
same start/finish point. So with the finish point they used that will be around 7:10 / 7:11. In the game the car handle pretty good and it's strange/fun to have a 7 speed gearbox. Will have to get a Z06 to compare. I try the Pagani Zonda Race car after the Nissan did a 6:20 that was fun.

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:31 am

I think this just brings up the point of how pointless (no pun intended) direct comparison of Nurburgring times are. Because how they are measured (such as this video) and the conditions (traffic, no traffic). There is some value, but if you can easily say any time is +/- X amount of time and the value of "X" is pretty variable, then its hard to say a 7:38 is really faster than a 7:39 for example.

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:54 pm

Richard Casto wrote:

I can't believe it! That is such a momumental screw up! It is a good 3-5 seconds short of where they started the lap.

again, the starting and stopping points used are the official 20.6 track times. They are the same used by VAG, GM, Sport Auto, and many more. I am not sure why they use the 20.6 vs the full track, but it is the standard.

Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
http://www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/nuerburgring-roadmap.html

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK)
http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/nord0905/index.php
http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/media/track_race_ring/index.php

7:11* -- 172.065 km/h -- McLaren F1 (GTR?), Mika Hakkinen, http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps/track/07Nt_zonda.html (* not an official source)
7:12* -- 171.666 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 171.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.de/fileadmin/MEDIA/VIDEO/nordschleife_runde.avi
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/ringmeister.html
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004 http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php
http://www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:27.82 167.201 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228650/
7:28* -- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company testd river Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:31 --- 164,375 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to http://www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) http://www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/14155/first-drive-2008-porsche-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 - 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-am-Ring_422642.html
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=142508
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto, oct,17-18 05) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219
7:35* -- 159.864 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr.) http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0712_2008_nissan_gt_r
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507838_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.628 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.628 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123066?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.38.56 - 161.578 km/h -- Nissan R32 GT-R
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7.39 --- 161.575 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=140084
http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/on-line/hxcms_article_507063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&mID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.828 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/FREE/71017001/1065
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at http://www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.484 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, worls driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), http://www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=137437
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.140 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=111663
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dNWIcV3jw&mode=user&search=
7:47* -- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=120285
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=91836
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=129099
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WfAYRcaHI
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h –- BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine,
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05) http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_U_technik/supertest/hxcms_article_500696_14469.hbs
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=126501
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvBuZ3EJTQ&mode=user&search=

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:30 pm

Marty Howard wrote:

Richard Casto wrote:

I can't believe it! That is such a momumental screw up! It is a good 3-5 seconds short of where they started the lap.

again, the starting and stopping points used are the official 20.6 track times. They are the same used by VAG, GM, Sport Auto, and many more. I am not sure why they use the 20.6 vs the full track, but it is the standard.

I knew there had to be a reason. It was just too obvious of a thing to do if you were trying to cheat on the time.

Here is another link for the 20.6 test length...

http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gI ... 339308&l=g

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:47 pm

Not sure if this is a repost or not, but it's dated this past Tuesday.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=123902

...and another article:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123940

This looks like it is going to be an awesome car.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

The Skyline is HUGE! Wow, I didn't expect it to be this big.

Stacy King · **Posted:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:16 pm

Where is that? the Home Depot in Apex?

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

The Skyline is HUGE! Wow, I didn't expect it to be this big.

Well it weighs almost 4,000lbs, its gots to be BIG.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:30 pm

When I checked out the GT-R that Car and Driver had at VIR, I did not think it was that big. Especially for the curb weight. I would guess it was the size of the Sti and Evolution MR that were there. If my senses were right, the Challenger was quite a bit larger than the GT-R

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:36 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

The Skyline is HUGE! Wow, I didn't expect it to be this big.

And FUGLY!!!!

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