What's the next big Track car?

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:22 pm

So after a dinner the other night, a few of us were talking about what the next big Track car will be. Right now the Miata and E30, and E36’s are the hot commodity. But what will come after that? Once the good examples are gone or something better and faster is found.

The possibilities we thought about were:
E46 - The three series may have gotten to heavy though
350Z – Prices are coming down, but will it catch on.
The NC Miata – My, look how much weight it’s gained.
The New Civic Si?
Solstice/Sky twins – It has definite potential
C6 vette - pricey for many

Thoughts?

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:26 pm

As far as weight goes for the Miata, its not limited to just that car. Every car that is sold today is WAY heaver than previous models. Hell most Honda's are approaching 3000 lbs.

Good list. You might could add the New Mustang to the bunch as well as the Mazda 3 once they start coming down in price.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:29 pm

Marty Howard wrote:

So after a dinner the other night, a few of us were talking about what the next big Track car will be.

Thoughts?

Define "track car". One to serve as HPDE/Daily driver, time trials or a race car?

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:35 pm

jimpastorius wrote:

Marty Howard wrote:

So after a dinner the other night, a few of us were talking about what the next big Track car will be.

Thoughts?

Define "track car". One to serve as HPDE/Daily driver, time trials or a race car?

All of the above,
Maybe the top of the list for each.

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:37 pm

I also think that Toyota's upcoming small RWD car (SR5 successor) may make the short list as well.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:37 pm

Marty Howard wrote:

I also think that Toyota's upcoming small RWD car (SR5 successor) may make the short list as well.

If the no-fun police at Toyota let it see the light of day.

Karl Shultz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:05 pm

Marty Howard wrote:

Solstice/Sky twins – It has definite potential

Seems very unlikely. No elegant way to fit rollover protection that I'm aware of. Same goes for the NC Miata. The top designs on both cars are problematic methinks (sort of like, I dunno, an S2000...)

The Mini will be a track star soon, not that it isn't already. Boxsters are getting cheaper and you can actually put rollover protection in one. I think the new Mustang will make a go of it too.

Keith Vail · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:16 pm

Karl Shultz wrote:

Marty Howard wrote:

Solstice/Sky twins – It has definite potential

Seems very unlikely. No elegant way to fit rollover protection that I'm aware of. Same goes for the NC Miata. The top designs on both cars are problematic methinks (sort of like, I dunno, an S2000...)

AWR makes for the NC Miata.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/30-10412P.html

They also have one without a Petty bar but I am not sure if it is legal without it.

David Spratte · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:58 pm

Karl Shultz wrote:

Same goes for the NC Miata. The top designs on both cars are problematic methinks (sort of like, I dunno, an S2000...)

MX-5 Cup?

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:20 pm

David Spratte wrote:

Karl Shultz wrote:

Same goes for the NC Miata. The top designs on both cars are problematic methinks (sort of like, I dunno, an S2000...)

MX-5 Cup?

Jooo dont have a soft top to worry with in the MX5 cup. Im sure the average HPDE'er is gonna wanna put the top up at some point

David Spratte · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:29 pm

Ryan Holton wrote:

David Spratte wrote:

Karl Shultz wrote:

Same goes for the NC Miata. The top designs on both cars are problematic methinks (sort of like, I dunno, an S2000...)

MX-5 Cup?

Jooo dont have a soft top to worry with in the MX5 cup. Im sure the average HPDE'er is gonna wanna put the top up at some point

Right. When they wash it before the waxing.

Matthew Fortner · **Joined:** Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:21 am **Posts:** 384

RX-8's can be had at $15,000. The power is a bit low, but has superb handling. Weigh under 3000 lbs. You can actually carry 4 adults and associated stuff.

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:13 pm

C5 Z06's can be had for around mid twenties, Classified by most automotive magazines as a true super car. Still has to be the most bang for the buck of any of the above mentioned cars.

Karl Shultz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:17 pm

Keith Vail wrote:

AWR makes for the NC Miata.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/30-10412P.html

They also have one without a Petty bar but I am not sure if it is legal without it.

Regardless, it sounds like it calls for removal of the factory "roll hoops" and, as someone sitting in that situation, I wouldn't want to start pulling stuff out of my nice car's interior to facilitate rollover protection.

Mini and 05+ Mustang FTW on being the new track car, in my mind anyway. There was a Mustang GT Convertible at CMP this past weekend with a well engineered roll bar that was being driven very well...

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:29 pm

Early Boxsters?

The main issue I see is the apparently inability to rebuild or easily tweak the engines on your own as well as the general lack of faith in the ability to track the newer watercooled six engines (oiling issues I believe).

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