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 Post subject: BMW may buy Volvo from Ford
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:10 pm 
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Loss-making Ford Motor Co. (NYSE:F - news) is planning to sell Swedish car maker Volvo and German carmaker BMW (BMWG.DE) could be a possible buyer, a Swedish newspaper said on Monday.

The Goteborgs Posten daily reported on its website that a source within Ford said BMW has been studying a possible purchase of Volvo.

The Financial Times also reported last Friday BMW was in informal talks to buy Volvo.

"We cannot comment on speculation, this is a question for our owner," said a spokeswoman for Volvo cars.

Ford bought Volvo in 1999 and it is now part of the U.S. company's Premier Automotive Group, including Jaguar and Land Rover.

Ford does not disclose results for its individual brands, but taken together its luxury line-up lost $327 million in 2006.

Merrill Lynch has said Ford could raise over $9 billion by selling the remaining luxury car brands.

Volvo Cars Chief Executive Fredrik Arp told Reuters in March that Ford was committed to keeping the Swedish car maker.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:22 pm 
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Doubt it.

BMW learned from its mistakes with Rover. Ford is probably just drumming on the rumor drum in hopes of getting a few bucks more.

WTF would BMW do with Volvo anyways? What a waste of money.

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MikeWhitney wrote:
WTF would BMW do with Volvo anyways?


Add more retarded electronic gadgets, and make them less reliable of course!

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Michael Westerfield wrote:
MikeWhitney wrote:
WTF would BMW do with Volvo anyways?


Add more retarded electronic gadgets, and make them less reliable of course!


Doesnt Volvo have the "Heartbeat" monitor keyfob? Sounds like they have the gadgets under control as it is.

I wonder if it would go off if this was in the CD player?

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Ryan Holton wrote:

I wonder if it would go off if this was in the CD player?


You bring teh funnay.

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Ryan Holton wrote:
Doesnt Volvo have the "Heartbeat" monitor keyfob?


I saw an article recently that said that certain "smart keys" are being rendered useless by proximity to an in-use cell phone. Apparently whatever the phone was doing to the key was irreversible and the key had to be replaced. Considering the cost of some of the "smart keys", that could be rather painful.

I have a feeling we will see more and more "interesting" interactions between all these hi-tech devices before the dust truly settles. Dang kids and their hi-tech devices! :lol:

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I think Volvo has made some good designs in recent years. it is too bad that their reliability ranking has nose-dived to almost the bottom of the charts. A good new owner or independance may be just what they need, and a return of the R lines.

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Marty Howard wrote:
I think Volvo has made some good designs in recent years. it is too bad that their reliability ranking has nose-dived to almost the bottom of the charts. A good new owner or independance may be just what they need, and a return of the R lines.


After two horrendous experiences with 2004 and 2005 V70Rs, I have written off Volvo for good. I actually wonder if they are "further gone" than BMW understands...especially since BMW has been doing so good, from a business perspective, and has long since reached the "fat, dumb and happy" stage of corporate growth -- the perfect time to blow a bunch of money on something that doesn't fit well into the current company. Perhaps the good side of it for recent purchased Volvo owners is that the incredible pressure to deny warranty claims will be relieved a bit...Volvo "service" can be a real joke without the right service manager working strongly for you.

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Blogs, newspapers and tongue wagging auto executives have been trying to push BMW and Volvo to the altar for a year. The likelihood of the German automaker buying the Swedish carmaker from Ford doesn't look any closer today, though published reports would have us believe otherwise.



Executives at both Ford Motor Co. and BMW AG said Tuesday that there have been no formal discussions between the two companies about the German automaker acquiring the ailing U.S. automaker's Volvo car business. A report of the possible sale was initially reported by Swedish daily newspaper The Goteborgs Posten and then the Financial Times of London last week. But reports that BMW was examining Volvo's financials have been popping up on blogs for months.



A BMW executive speaking off the record Tuesday said he would not rule out the possibility that BMW's strategic planning and financial departments were not studying a scenario in which BMW would acquire Volvo as "a normal business planning exercise."



Ford spokesman Tom Hoyt said, "Ford Motor Company is not in discussions with BMW or any other company regarding an interest in the Volvo Car Corporation. We have seen this kind of speculation for the past year, as Ford Motor Company has been assessing our operations and portfolio - as any good business does and we will continue to do."



Some Ford executives might find it desirable to sell Volvo, but it could be tough. Ford executives have said privately that Volvo has been operating at around a break-even level for two years with some red ink.



Of the three premium brands Ford has in PAG-Volvo, Jaguar and Land Rover--there is widespread belief that Volvo is the most valuable to Ford. Merrill Lynch estimates that all three brands could bring Ford more than $9 billion. Between $7 and $8 billion of that would come from Volvo.



CEO Alan Mulally has defended ownership of the premium three brands, including endorsing their future product plans. Privately, Ford executives say that is posturing to keep potential buyers interested. Mulally is not believed to be keen on Ford's luxury brands. Mulally, who came to Ford from Boeing last September, has talked about building up the Ford band globally, creating huge money saving efficiencies and a single worldwide brand strategy as the best means for taking on Toyota.



But a divestiture of Volvo would be tough on the system. Ford, as well as Mazda in which Ford owns a 37-percent controlling stake, have been creating engineering and purchasing efficiencies with Volvo since Ford bought the Swedish automaker in 1999. The current Volvo S40/V50, Mazda3 and Ford (European) Focus shared engineering development and purchasing costs. Ford currently builds three models-the Ford Taurus, Mercury Montego and Ford Taurus X-off the engineering platform of the Volvo S80. Ford plans two more vehicles, the Ford Flex and a Lincoln crossover SUV, off the same engineering platform.



Why BMW might be interested in acquiring Volvo is harder to guess than the reason Ford might want to sell. BMW was roiled in the 1990s over its purchase of the British Rover Group. BMW acquired Rover, Land Rover and MINI, and lost, by some estimates, in excess of $10 billion before jettisoning Rover to an investment group for no money and Land Rover to Ford. It kept MINI, which has been a big sales success for BMW worldwide as the Munich-based automaker remade the MINI Cooper product line and brand image.



BMW chairman Norbert Reithofer is facing sales growth issues. Though the company has added the 1-Series small cars to it lineup in the last three years, and is planning to launch a multi-activity-vehicle, there is worry that the BMW brand is getting filled out, and that adding more vehicles could water down its valuable brand equity in the premium price categories.



But acquiring Volvo would give BMW a relatively healthy global brand that needs financial discipline, manufacturing efficiencies and brand marketing know-how applied to it. Volvo cars and SUVs are engineered to be front-drive, while all BMW's vehicles are rear-drive. While it is unlikely that BMW would ever build a Volvo and BMW off the same engineering platform, there could be enormous savings from engineering systems and parts, such as engines.



Volvo would not present BMW with the same outdated and dysfunctional operations, manufacturing and labor that beset Rover. BMW would be gambling that its ferocious financial and operational discipline would whip Volvo into shape. Volvo has been somewhat static in the U.S. and losing ground in Europe outside Sweden. BMW could make it more of a global brand than it is today, especially in the developing Asian market.



BMW shares closed Tuesday up 85 cents, or 1.7 percent, to 50.60 euros. Ford shares, meantime., closed down 5 cents to $8.40.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:57 pm 
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I'm thinking BMW trumped up the offer as an excuse to take a closer look at Volvo's numbers and see what markets they were doing okay in and which they were struggling in.

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