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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:16 am 
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How about a turbo three rotor Deuce?

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I have about 1000 pics of Rods and customs on my home computer. It was a big Auto kick for me for a while, and they still have a special place in my heart.

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Most people put SBCs in their hot rod Ford pretty much for one reason...cost. Dime a dozen. Note I said *most*.

Sure, if I were building a tow vehicle that I wanted to look like a hot rod, it probably wouldn't have the "right" engine in it. It would have a diesel of some kind, and likely a Cummins since they sell the most complete "kits" to drop in.

If I were building a dragster that I wanted to look like a hot rod, well, the easy choice there is probably something Chevy based since the performance market is tremendous so power to cost ratios are the best. Plus you're *going* to need those parts, so why make it hard on yourself?

If I'm building something I just think is cool, well, it all depends. I will usually choose to stay with a drivetrain that matches the nameplate on the body. The exception there is using a Ford 9" rear end in a Chevy...that seems pretty universally accepted and is the single best way to guarantee you don't need any rear end parts while in the middle of BFE (*knock* *knock* *knock*).

Next project will be a 37" Chevy. Front mounted mid engine (completely behind the front axle, likely behind the tires), likely ramjet 350, no fenders, minimal hood, race car interior (flat panels painted to match the body, race seats, harnesses, cage, fire bottle, etc), BIG treaded Hoosiers all the way around, and 30's era race numbers and decals all the way around. Street legal on an original steel '37 body, 100% easily streetable except it will be a manual transmission, very little luggage space. It'll use off-the-shelf circle track suspension bits on a custom frame (but built symmetrically). In my ideal world I'd even build it with some method of quick change coilovers and a trailer hitch so I could compete in the One Lap with it. It will have AC/heat fairly well hidden as well as a stereo. I think about naturally aspirated HP (fuel injected, of course) along with weighing well under 2500 pounds and a well built suspension could make it quite a fun little ride. Doubtful it would be One-Lap ready for next year, but perhaps the next.

(Tire Rack doesn't appear to sell the Hoosiers I want for it for the street, so I couldn't run those in the One Lap, but I'm sure a suitable tire/wheel combo could easily be found that would work well. Just wouldn't look as period correct, unfortunately).


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Wes Eargle wrote:
How about a turbo three rotor Deuce?

:lol:

I have seen a 2 rotor Deuce, plus about any other engine make/model/location imaginable in them. :D
Donnie,
I built a 36 Chevy coupe for a friend with a 327 (this was in the 60's) set 1/2 way thru the firewall for drag racing. C/Gas rules allowed a 10% of the wheelbase engine setback measured from thefront axle centerline to the #1 sparkplug and we used all but an 1/8" of that allowance. Makes for a tight interior, but not too bad compared to a sports car.
I had a 36 Chevy 2Dr Coach (a rare model with a back seat but no outside trunk opening. The rear seat back folded down for access to the small storage space behind it. The spare tire mounted on the sloped back panel. I started building it into a street rod, then sold it to finance the move down here.
Since you only want the body shell anyhow the 37 was popular in the Gas classes so an ex racer might be a starting point, altho with the rapidly growing popularity of nostalgia drags and the "gasser look" for the street old racers are starting to bring big prices. The Chevy bodies of the 30s held up better than the Fords because they had solid steel roofs and very little wood in the structure. The fenders were the weak point, being large and poorly supported they tended to crack in half at the top of the wheel arch.
They make a repro fiberglass 37 Chevy coupe body.

Why not just sign up on the list for one of the 50 Foose Hemisfears?

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows/co ... ncept.html

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Chuck Frank wrote:
I built a 36 Chevy coupe for a friend with a 327 (this was in the 60's) set 1/2 way thru the firewall for drag racing. C/Gas rules allowed a 10% of the wheelbase engine setback measured from thefront axle centerline to the #1 sparkplug and we used all but an 1/8" of that allowance. Makes for a tight interior, but not too bad compared to a sports car.


I'm just going to have a slightly stretched frame from original. Won't matter since there will be no original bodywork foward of the firewall anyway.

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Since you only want the body shell anyhow the 37 was popular in the Gas classes so an ex racer might be a starting point, altho with the rapidly growing popularity of nostalgia drags and the "gasser look" for the street old racers are starting to bring big prices. The Chevy bodies of the 30s held up better than the Fords because they had solid steel roofs and very little wood in the structure. The fenders were the weak point, being large and poorly supported they tended to crack in half at the top of the wheel arch.
They make a repro fiberglass 37 Chevy coupe body.


Two things here. First, I already have a body. Second, I *hate* fiberglass cars, particularly repro stuff. Just can't stand it.

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Why not just sign up on the list for one of the 50 Foose Hemisfears?

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows/co ... ncept.html


Probably because they're ugly and nowhere near what I'm after. My car will look just like an old dirt track car from the 40's. Not some "look how slick I can make this really retro looking but brand new car" or whatever. Plus that thing will cost about twice what I'm gonna spend.


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When you can't find an old american body:

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Me likey!!!! :thumbsup:

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Todd Breakey wrote:
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Me likey!!!! :thumbsup:

Me too! I have seen several of Chip's cars in person, and every one has been a work of art. The original design for the Hemisfear was his thesis project at art school.
Unfortunately I can't put the time and money into my cars that he does.
I don't have 20 or 30 of the top people in the country working for me or someone to underwrite the costs.
If you want to see a complete feature story on the Hemisfear, pick up the new issue of Hot Rod.

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I really like Foose designs also. Although, I'm kind of on a Rat Rod kick right now. If I had the time and money to build a hot rod it would definately be a rat rod pick up. Flat paint, road sign fire wall, tall white walls, exposed engine with short headers, maybe even a shop name on the side.
Kind of like this one owned by Billy Gibbons...
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That would be my dream rod...right now anyway.

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Todd Breakey wrote:
Nice car Jeb. They didn't make them much uglier than that!! :lol:


Todd, we have to talk. Square Birds get a bad rap, but I kind of like the intense 50's-ness of them. In their time, they were very popular. About 21000 of the iconic 1957 T-Birds were sold. 92000 Square Birds were sold in 1960.

There's a house in the Trinity Park section of Durham, where on any weekend you'll see 2 or 3 classic late 50's and early 60's luxury cars parked in the driveway. I've seen two different Imperials with the gunsight taillights, a 1960 Lincoln (the model that the Batmobile was based upon), and some Oldsmobiles and Buicks. Dad says the house belongs to a member of the family that used to run the Olds-Cadillac dealership in Durham.

When I was six, the mechanic who lived two doors down brought home his first project car - a navy blue 1939 Ford Standard Coupe. [ In honor of Pete Guthrie, here's a photo of one from a Russian website: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/f/39for ... upe_KI.jpg ] It looked incredibly sleek and sounded awesome. I was in love. Then his daughter (who always enjoyed tormenting me) told me it had a Chevy engine, and I felt completely betrayed. I forgave Mr. Jackson when he bought a mint 1946 Mercury convertible, maroon with a white top, and then a red 1955 T-bird. I didn't even object to the completely original 1956 Coupe De Ville or the 1940 Buick Super 8 that he also kept parked in front of their house.

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Billy has quite a collection, most revolving around the current album release.
My first "favorite" band and the one that got me to put a stereo* in my car.


Previously no stereo, because I am hardcore like that.

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It's calling you Chuck....

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