Front License Plate Law...

CosbyWood · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:57 am

Carl Fisher wrote:

I've found just the thing for you, so you can put an oversize sign on your car in a way that is prominent, but doesn't interfere with your visibility: right here

RobLupella wrote:

Put it over the front license plate :twisted:

You are both evil.

Ash Nelson · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:19 am

Nyuk nyuk nyuk, front license plates suk :lol:

Brad Mackey · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:58 am

Got this from Senator Joe Sam Queen. (Now THAT"S a name!) This guy must be a real dipstick. I explicitly asked what his position was on the bill. Here's his response:

Mr. Mackey,

It is good to hear from you. I very much appreciate representing you in the North Carolina Senate. I am very interested in your concern. I appreciate your letter and understand your concerns in regards to Senate Bill 673 and the addition of a front license plate.
Again, thank you for your input. Please, feel free to contact my office with any other questions or concerns.
Many Thanks,
Senator Joe Sam Queen
North Carolina Senate - District 47
16 W. Jones Street Room 1117
Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
(919) 733-3460
joeq@ncleg.net

HUH???? Typical bullshit response from a clueless politician.

Matthew Fortner · **Joined:** Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:21 am **Posts:** 384

It might just mean he is keeping an open mind to both sides speaking optimistically.

Graham Jagger · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:53 am **Posts:** 1718

Matthew Fortner wrote:

It might just mean he is keeping an open mind to both sides speaking optimistically.

That is a typical politicians answer. Thank the dear voter for his/her time and interest. Let him/her know they understand your concern. Promise absolutely nothing. Agree or disagree to absolutely nothing.

I'll bet you could send this guy an email saying you like or dislike anything currently being proposed and receive that same exact response. It's a blanket form answer.

Speaking pessimistically.

Jason Mauldin · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:09 pm

Graham Jagger wrote:

Matthew Fortner wrote:

It might just mean he is keeping an open mind to both sides speaking optimistically.

I'll bet you could send this guy an email saying you like or dislike anything currently being proposed and receive that same exact response. It's a blanket form answer.

Speaking pessimistically.

Or send him a response, acknowledge his lack of commitment to an issue that is important to you and that next time around, you will be voting for someone who supports the issues that are important to you.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Brad - send something like this back.

Mr. Queen,

It is good to hear from your secretary. I don't really appreciate you representing me in the North Carolina Senate. I am very interested in your lack of concern. I don't appreciate your form letter and can't understand your lack of concerns in regards to your re-election to the Senate.

Again, no thank you for your lack of input. Please, feel free to contact my office with any other questions or concerns about what you are going to do for a living after you are no longer a Senator.

Many Thanks,
Voter Brad Mackey

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:29 pm

Jason Mauldin wrote:

Or send him a response, acknowledge his lack of commitment to an issue that is important to you and that next time around, you will be voting for someone who supports the issues that are important to you.

That's funny. Every politician supports whatever the person in front of them wants.

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:54 pm

What his reply really represents is the fact that he does not represent you, but rather represents himself. I believe that Mike's reply is in order. Or perhaps you should copy the letter and send it back to him and ask just where in this correspondence he stated his position and cc it to the N&O.

Matthew Fortner · **Joined:** Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:21 am **Posts:** 384

Of course, the letter does not indicate anything other than Brad's correspondence was acknowledged. Since it is likely a form letter, we cannot infer that he has one side or the other in mind. The impact report will not be introduced until next week so not many if any of them know enough to have an opinion. So its good that we are voicing our sentiments early... before the report comes. What needs to happen is to get a copy of that report from the Senate librarian once it is released so we can see what the pitch is.

Far be it from me to defend a politician. But I've found most of the legislators that I have dealt with very approachable.

Brad Mackey · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:00 pm

I sent this to the Bill's sponsor:

Dear Ms. Cowell,

We know you mean well with your proposal to add a second license tag to vehicles in North Carolina. However, your reasoning defies logic. If you feel that the license plate of a tailgating vehicle will be visible at night, through your mirror, below your rear bumper, with headlights glaring, I recommend you try it sometime.

And the police normally can’t see the front bumper of a fleeing car unless they have X-ray vision!

I, and my fellow car enthusiasts in North Carolina, strongly urge you to re-think your ill-conceived position in this matter and withdraw your bill from committee. It would mean more cost to the taxpayers of North Carolina and serve absolutely no useful purpose. Our membership is waiting for your response, which will be posted on forums throughout the U.S.

Sincerely,

Brad Mackey

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

I'm liking this guy so far. Too bad he's not a libertarian, I would go volunteer for his campaign.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sen. Neal Hunt" <Nealh@ncleg.net>
To: "Mike Whitney" <whitney@nogumracing.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Requesting information regarding NC Senate Bill 673

Michael, I really doubt it. But having said that you never can tell.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Whitney [mailto:whit32@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Sen. Neal Hunt; Mike Whitney
Subject: Re: Requesting information regarding NC Senate Bill 673

Hello Mr. Hunt -

Thanks for the quick reply. So is there even a chance this bill will
pass?
If most members are against it, and if it is unlikely to pass, I won't
waste my time.

Regards,
Michael Whitney

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sen. Neal Hunt" <Nealh@ncleg.net>
To: "Mike Whitney" <whitney@nogumracing.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: Requesting information regarding NC Senate Bill 673

Against.

Neal Hunt

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Updated list of replies on page 1 of trhe nceuro thread:

http://nceuro.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6820

Results: Updated 03/19. Most replies so far have been on "our side".

Replied as AGAINST bill
Senator Neal Hunt (Rep)
Senator Richard Stevens (Rep)
Senator Steve Goss (Dem)
Senator Phil Berger (Rep)
Senator Jerry W. Tillman (Rep)

Replied as IN FAVOR OF bill
Senator Janet Cowell (Dem)

Replied with form letter or inconclusive
Senator Joe Sam Queen (Dem)
Senator W. Edward (Eddie) Goodall (Rep)

NO RESPONSE (slackers!)
Senator Larry Shaw (Dem)
Senator Clark Jenkins (Dem)
Senator Austin M. Allran (Rep)
Senator Harry Brown (Rep)
Senator Don East (Rep)
Senator Malcolm Graham (Dem)
Senator John H. Kerr III (Dem)
Senator Jean Preston (Rep)
Senator John Snow (Dem)
Senator A. B. Swindell (Dem)
Senator David F. Weinstein (Dem)

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

Mike, if you have a nceuro login, can you update the list of forums this has been posted on? I posted it on mazda3forums in the NC owners section as well as North American Motoring (MINI forums).

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:23 pm

Just because I'm too lazy to read the actual bill, can someone tell me what the reasoning behind the front plate is? It seems to me that the only thing it would do is increase the cost of creating plates which would in turn increase our cost to license our cars. So basically it is just a different way to tax the public. Gotta love that! :roll:

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