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 Post subject: Most recalled Autos of 06
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:28 am 
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The most-recalled automobiles of 2006

Dodge Ram Pickup
Base Price: $22,170
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 7

Recalls concerned:
--Faulty anti-lock brake electronic control units
--Defective front suspensions
--Airbags that could deploy with excessive force
--Transfer cases on four-wheel drive models that may inadvertently shift to neutral and cause parked vehicles to roll away
--Seatbelts that may not be able to secure certain child seats
--Missing pieces of exterior lighting
--Defective rearview mirrors


Dodge Durango SUV
Base Price: $27,055
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 6
Recalls concerned:
--Incorrect airbag restraint controllers
--Faulty automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"
--Faulty anti-lock brake software
--Rear-suspension components damaged during assembly
--Defective front windshield-wiper motors
--Malfunctioning turn signals, headlights or windshield wipers

Chevrolet Silverado Pickup
Base Price: $23,605
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--8.1-liter V-8 engines that may leak fuel
--Inaccurate tire and loading-information labels
--Defective power-steering systems
--Another for inaccurate tire and loading-information labels

GMC Sierra Pickup
Base Price: $18,760
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--8.1-liter V-8 engines that may leak fuel
--Inaccurate tire and loading-information labels
--Defective power-steering systems
--Another for inaccurate tire and loading-information labels

Honda Civic Coupe And Sedan
Base Price: $14,810
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--Faulty frontal airbags
--Incorrect NHTSA contact info in owner's manuals - (Can this really count?)
--Gas pedals that may come loose
--Improperly attached rear glass

Hyundai Sonata Sedan
Base Price: $17,345
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--Improperly affixed airbag-warning labels
--Improperly assembled headlights
--Front seatbacks that may inadvertently recline
--Improperly programmed electronic stability-control systems

Jeep Liberty SUV
Base Price: $22,025
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: Four
Recalls concerned:
--Faulty wiring that could lead to underbody fires
--Faulty door latches
--Faulty suspensions
--Faulty automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"

Land Rover LR3 SUV
Base Price: $42,150
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--Faulty ignition switches
--Fuel tanks that may leak
--Automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"
--Seatbelts that don't latch properly

Land Rover Range Rover Sport SUV
Base Price: $57,950
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 4
Recalls concerned:
--Faulty ignition switches
--Automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"
--Seatbelts that don't latch properly
--Faulty brakes


Not all warnings are for safety-related matters, but many are

Last week, Honda Motor announced a global recall of 45,000 Civic Hybrid sedans, hoping to correct defective voltage converters that could cause short circuits, stopping the cars' engines and preventing them from restarting.

This is an example of a recall at its most serious: a grave problem affecting a large number of vehicles, prompting the automaker to spring to action and immediately contact owners.

Other recalls, on the other hand, are not so grim.

Take the October 2004 federal recall of Ford Motor's 2005 Jaguar S-Type sedan, a move that potentially affected 50,000 models. (Recalls typically don't affect an entire model's production run.) According to a statement released by the U.S. Department of Transportation, "The brake-fluid master-cylinder reservoir is recessed and oriented in the engine compartment beneath a leaf screen, such that the brake fluid warning statement embossed on the top of the reservoir is not visible by direct view."

Somebody call Ralph Nader.

All kidding aside, examine the most-recalled 2006-model cars, and you will find that a number of seemingly trouble-free vehicles have problems.

Honda's 2006 Civic has had four recalls, as has Hyundai's popular Sonata sedan. Each of these models had one recall for improper labels within the vehicle (comparatively minor recalls), but each also had three recalls for manufacturing problems that could have caused accidents and injuries.

For example, the 2006 Civic had a November 2005 recall potentially affecting 25,000 cars. On certain Civics, Honda had not installed the gas pedals properly, and they may have come loose at the floor mountings. In drive, the pedals could have become stuck, increasing the risk of a crash.

In Hyundai's case, an August 2005 recall potentially involved 36,000 Sonatas. On certain models, a manufacturing defect was causing the front seatbelt to interfere with the manual seatback recliner knob, causing the recliner to release inadvertently — a safety hazard.

As recalls go, "The recliner knob was pretty big," says Hyundai spokesman Miles Johnson. "That got some coverage." On the other hand, fixing the problem involved a "minor change on a plastic part."

Regarding all four Sonata recalls, "We voluntarily initiated all these actions to ensure the safety and quality of the vehicles and customer satisfaction," Johnson says. "These recalls were discovered early, and were contained to a small population of vehicles."

Indeed, while some recalls can affect tens of thousands of cars, many can affect a small number of models. One of the Sonata's 2006 recalls — a problem with the headlights — potentially affected only 500 vehicles.

Small and minor recalls are just two things that make them imperfect indicators of vehicle safety, even though recalls can teach us a lot about major trouble spots.

Some, though, say the number of recalls issued each year is too high.

In his recently published book, "Shifting Out Of Park: Moving Auto Safety From Recalls To Reason," author Kevin M. McDonald says the Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), which develops and administers car-safety regulations, issues as many as 30 million recalls per year. More cars are recalled than sold, he says.

What's more, compliance with federally mandated recalls is tough to achieve, since car owners ignore up to 25 percent of recall notices, according to McDonald. He points out that parts and labor cost automakers around $100 per vehicle per recall. Do some recalls even make sense for consumers and automakers? We asked McDonald, who also works for Volkswagen as an in-house counsel.

“"In the book,” he says, “you'll see a couple of examples of recalls that shouldn't have been safety recalls. There was a GM recall a couple of years ago of about a half-million Astros and GMC Safaris. The defect was the failure of these 500,000 vehicles to chime for four to eight seconds when the seatbelt wasn't clicked. These affected vehicles failed to chime for a fraction of a second less than the safety standard required — even though the illuminated seatbelt icon on the dashboard lit up for longer than was required."

"You really don't need to do a safety recall" in a case like this, he said.

We asked why NHTSA would push for such a recall. "NHTSA measures its success in large part by the number of recalls it generates,” McDonald says. “There was a time in the '70s when it focused on forward-looking rule-making and setting safety standards. Over time, NHTSA has come to focus on recalls as one measure of how they are doing their job."

What’s more, “even if you have a good-faith disagreement on what's a safety defect or whether it's in a certain class of vehicles, if you're going to litigate the issue, whether you'll win in the court of public opinion is very dubious."

And more cars are recalled than sold because recalls often span multiple model years, increasing the pool of potentially affected vehicles.

NHTSA declined to comment on McDonald's remarks to Forbes.com.

While our data on the most-recalled 2006-model cars comes from NHTSA's list of safety recalls, Honda has taken issue with what exactly constitutes a safety recall.

The carmaker's 2006-model Accords and Civics participated in a July 2006 recall that potentially affected 1.2 million 2006- and 2007-model Hondas. The recall sounded pretty minor: The owner's manuals of certain cars and motorcycles had incorrect contact information for NHTSA's Vehicle Safety Hotline. Honda responded by sending postcards with the correct information to dealers and owners.

"By definition, recalls are issued to address something that poses a risk to passenger safety, so this was not a recall," wrote Honda spokesman Chris Naughton in a recent e-mail message.

But NHTSA lists the owner's-manual case in its safety-recall database, and we can see how not being able to call the right NHTSA number to report safety defects could be a problem, so we counted this recall in determining the most-recalled 2006-model cars.

Naughton went on to say that Honda was among companies with the fewest recalls in model-year 2006, and that some recalls span different model years (such as the owner's-manual recall, which affected 2006- and 2007-model cars).

In terms of other comments we received in researching this story, Land Rover e-mailed us the following statement in response to our inclusion of the company's LR3 and Range Rover Sport SUVs in this story: "For the most part, Land Rover recalls have involved a small number of vehicles. We identified the issues and diligently worked to correct them. Land Rover recognizes the need for sustainable high quality, and we are committed to achieving the high levels of quality our customers expect from us."

A DaimlerChrysler spokesman also touched on the volume of certain recalls in response to our inclusion of two Dodges and a Jeep in this story. The spokesman wrote in a recent e-mail, "Several of the recalls involved small numbers of vehicles."

By publication time General Motors had not responded to requests for comment.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:32 am 
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Marty Howard wrote:
The most-recalled automobiles of 2006

Dodge Ram Pickup
Base Price: $22,170
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 7

Recalls concerned:
--Faulty anti-lock brake electronic control units
--Defective front suspensions
--Airbags that could deploy with excessive force
--Transfer cases on four-wheel drive models that may inadvertently shift to neutral and cause parked vehicles to roll away
--Seatbelts that may not be able to secure certain child seats
--Missing pieces of exterior lighting
--Defective rearview mirrors


Dodge Durango SUV
Base Price: $27,055
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 6
Recalls concerned:
--Incorrect airbag restraint controllers
--Faulty automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"
--Faulty anti-lock brake software
--Rear-suspension components damaged during assembly
--Defective front windshield-wiper motors
--Malfunctioning turn signals, headlights or windshield wipers



WOW, Dodge had the first two on the list. Someone wake Steven Westerfield up, Im sure he passed out when he saw this!

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 Post subject: Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recalls
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Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recalls

If you’ve merely done a moderate amount of Internet surfing or cracked open a newspaper lately – just about any newspaper – you’ve undoubtedly seen the news that Toyota has once again passed Ford in worldwide auto sales and may pass GM sometime this year.

But what you may not have seen is that Toyota has already passed both Ford and GM in a different category – automotive recalls.

Although we’ve barely passed mid-February, Toyota has already recalled 533,417 vehicles this year in a mix that, according to www.AutoRecalls.us, includes Tundras Sequoias and Camrys. That puts Toyota on track to recall more than the over 1.76 million autos they recalled in the U.S. and Japan in 2006, and the 2.2 million they recalled in 2005 when they recalled more cars than they built.

What’s more, the current recall related to the Turdra trucks and Sequioa SUVs is similar to the same defect in 800,000 of the same vehicles in 2005. Maybe somebody at Toyota isn’t paying attention?

Hopefully the American consumers are. Recall numbers by domestic companies (GM and Ford) so far this year are as follows: Ford, 128,163; Chevrolet, 4,829; and Pontiac, 1,602.

Chrysler - a German company masquerading as an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in 2008 - has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.

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 Post subject: Re: Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recal
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Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recalls

If you’ve merely done a moderate amount of Internet surfing or cracked open a newspaper lately – just about any newspaper – you’ve undoubtedly seen the news that Toyota has once again passed Ford in worldwide auto sales and may pass GM sometime this year.

But what you may not have seen is that Toyota has already passed both Ford and GM in a different category – automotive recalls.

Although we’ve barely passed mid-February, Toyota has already recalled 533,417 vehicles this year in a mix that, according to www.AutoRecalls.us, includes Tundras Sequoias and Camrys. That puts Toyota on track to recall more than the over 1.76 million autos they recalled in the U.S. and Japan in 2006, and the 2.2 million they recalled in 2005 when they recalled more cars than they built.

What’s more, the current recall related to the Turdra trucks and Sequioa SUVs is similar to the same defect in 800,000 of the same vehicles in 2005. Maybe somebody at Toyota isn’t paying attention?

Hopefully the American consumers are. Recall numbers by domestic companies (GM and Ford) so far this year are as follows: Ford, 128,163; Chevrolet, 4,829; and Pontiac, 1,602.

Chrysler - a German company masquerading as an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in 2008 - has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.


Please take into account that Toyota can afford to do recalls and when they spot a problem, have no reluctance to fix the issue, as compared with the Big 3, that have to worry about their bottom line and will jeopardize safety in some cases and just issue a TSB on a vehicle.... that is until enough people die. - AB

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 Post subject: Re: Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recal
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Please take into account that Toyota can afford to do recalls and when they spot a problem, have no reluctance to fix the issue, as compared with the Big 3, that have to worry about their bottom line and will jeopardize safety in some cases and just issue a TSB on a vehicle.... that is until enough people die. - AB


You really are drinking the Toyota grape kool-aid. Why won't Toyota match the GM/Ford 6 year/100,000 mile warranty? The gap between GM and Toyota quality has narrow or disappeared. But the fact remains GM has the daunting task of changing the perception. Granted, that perception was well-deserved.

Plus Toyota does not have an exiting auto in their lineup. Add to the fact that the average age of a Camry buyer is over 54 years old. They are becoming Buick :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Most recalled Autos of 06
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Marty Howard wrote:
Dodge Durango SUV
Base Price: $27,055
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 6
Recalls concerned:
--Incorrect airbag restraint controllers
--Faulty automatic transmissions that may not be able to shift into "Park"
--Faulty anti-lock brake software
--Rear-suspension components damaged during assembly
--Defective front windshield-wiper motors
--Malfunctioning turn signals, headlights or windshield wipers



Funny, only had one recall on my 2005 Durango. Must be a better year :)

After 25k miles it has been trouble free except for a minor water leak from the driver's door seal.

Also, couldn't this list be biased toward companies that are the most proactive, and/or with the most vocal customers? I wonder what the 2005 or 2004 or 2003 list looks like. Marty does your source show those?

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You really are drinking the Toyota grape kool-aid. Why won't Toyota match the GM/Ford 6 year/100,000 mile warranty? :lol:


They don't have to. The public won't buy American cars w/o rebates so the Big 2.5 have to resort to expensive warranty subsidies to try and narrow the perceived quality gap. It is interesting that many of the "better" foreign cars (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissanault) are built in the US and many of the "American" cars are built in Canada or Mexico. :roll:


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You really are drinking the Toyota grape kool-aid. Why won't Toyota match the GM/Ford 6 year/100,000 mile warranty?


Why would they do something like that? That warranty is nice and all, but you have to attach it to a vehicle that's actually appealing.

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Also, couldn't this list be biased toward companies that are the most proactive, and/or with the most vocal customers? I wonder what the 2005 or 2004 or 2003 list looks like. Marty does your source show those?


That info is published. We can look at the top 10 for the last 5 years

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You really are drinking the Toyota grape kool-aid. Why won't Toyota match the GM/Ford 6 year/100,000 mile warranty? The gap between GM and Toyota quality has narrow or disappeared. But the fact remains GM has the daunting task of changing the perception. Granted, that perception was well-deserved.


Um because Toyota already does a 5 year/60,000 mile warranty, and they don't need to boost it to increase sales.

Hell, Honda only does a 3 year/36,000 mile warranty and they don't have a problem with sales growth.


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Aaron Buckley wrote:
Please take into account that Toyota can afford to do recalls and when they spot a problem, have no reluctance to fix the issue, as compared with the Big 3, that have to worry about their bottom line and will jeopardize safety in some cases and just issue a TSB on a vehicle.... that is until enough people die. - AB


Really? Toyota just jumps on their problems when the spot them without any help from the owners or the government huh? Then I guess this must not be true;

"Other recent news that won’t sit well with a Camry-conscious public is the class-action lawsuit recently settled by Toyota regarding ruinous oil sludge buildup covering 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus (yes, Lexus) vehicles."


Don't kid yourself. No car maker is perfect. And EVERY car maker CAN'T afford recalls, period. The bottom line is affected. Stock holders are stock holders regardless of what language they speak or where they inhabit the earth.

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MikeWhitney wrote:
Also, couldn't this list be biased toward companies that are the most proactive, and/or with the most vocal customers? I wonder what the 2005 or 2004 or 2003 list looks like. Marty does your source show those?


Well besides Toyota's record braking start for 2007 with the recalls I noted above. Past records they have held;

* According to Business Week’s January 22, 2007 issue, Toyota has recalled 9.3 million vehicles in the last three years, which is nearly four times the number of recalls in the three year period prior to 2004.

* Toyota recalled 1.27 million vehicles in one swoop in 2005, recording the biggest-ever recall in history for a Japanese car company.

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jimpastorius wrote:
You really are drinking the Toyota grape kool-aid. Why won't Toyota match the GM/Ford 6 year/100,000 mile warranty? The gap between GM and Toyota quality has narrow or disappeared. But the fact remains GM has the daunting task of changing the perception. Granted, that perception was well-deserved.

Plus Toyota does not have an exiting auto in their lineup. Add to the fact that the average age of a Camry buyer is over 54 years old. They are becoming Buick :lol:


Yep and perception is reality. But that perception is coming around. I agree that the Big 3 have rightfully earned that negative perception. Their quality is getting better. Some more fun stats and articles:

* 2006, J.D. Power shows Mercury, Buick and Cadillac beat Toyota in a list of dependable cars. Two Buicks and a Mercury took the top three midsize car awards; Mercury, Ford and Buick took the top three large car awards; Ford took the midsize van award and the midsize truck award; and GMC and Cadillac took the large MAV (multi-purpose activity vehicle) and large premium MAV awards, respectively.

* In an article about trust issues, Business Week’s December 11, 2006 issue stated “GM’s quality nearly equals Toyota’s.” Perceived quality among the American public is another story, however. The difference between the actual quality of American cars and the perceived quality of American cars is the “perception gap.”

* In the same article, J.D. Power’s director for retail research said “Actual quality is so close…” discussing the quality rankings of GMC, Chevrolet and Cadillac placing them on par with both Honda and Toyota.

* And most recently, of course, the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan beat the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry according to Consumer Reports.

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Why would they do something like that? That warranty is nice and all, but you have to attach it to a vehicle that's actually appealing.


Whereas Nissan must be really appealing to the masses these days, or maybe not...
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Nissan to offer buyouts at Tennessee plants

Nissan Motor Co., Japan's third- largest automaker, is offering voluntary buyouts of at least $45,000 to trim jobs at two Tennessee plants because of declining sales of its light trucks, Bloomberg News reported today.

The offers are expected to reduce employment by about 300 people, spokeswoman Vicki Smith said today. That would be about 4.8 percent of hourly workers at the vehicle assembly plant in Smyrna, which has about 5,200, and the engine factory in Decherd, which has about 1,000. The Smyrna plant builds models including Pathfinder sport-utility vehicles and Altima cars.

"These Nissan buyouts are historic," said Harley Shaiken, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley who specializes in labor issues. "It sort of tarnishes the magic halo that has surrounded the international automakers, the transplants."

Nissan is scaling back at the Tennessee plants after saying earlier this month it will miss its full-year profit forecast by 12 percent, citing weaker-than-expected vehicle sales in the U.S. and Japan. That announcement triggered the largest drop in Tokyo- based Nissan's share price in more than five years.

Workers who agree to leave will get a $45,000 payment and an additional $500 for each year of service, Nissan said. Employees have until March 13 to accept and would have to leave by June 30.

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Don't kid yourself. No car maker is perfect. And EVERY car maker CAN'T afford recalls, period. The bottom line is affected. Stock holders are stock holders regardless of what language they speak or where they inhabit the earth.


I certainly agree that there is no perfect car maker, Toyota and Honda inclusive.

Sure, Toyota doesn't want to have recalls, but will do so when necessary. Engine sludge? That sounds like people not changing their oil enough.

Regardless, reliability is not perception for nothing. The Big 3 have screwed themselves by making junk for a lot years. Even though their current products have better quality, perception takes a long time to change.... for better or worse. - AB

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