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 Post subject: speeding ticket 46/30 in SC
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:16 am 
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Can someone clear this up for me? I see no mention about speeds less than 55 mph.

According to: http://www.ncdot.org/dmv/driver_service ... sions.html

Your driving privilege will be revoked for at least 30 days if you are convicted of:
* driving any vehicle more than 15 mph over the speed limit, if you are driving at a speed higher than 55 mph.

I was 16 mph over at 46 mph which obviouisly is well below 55 mph. Nonetheless, I will be seeking an SC attorney. It levees 2pts and a $75 fine. But I'm worried it will be applied more severely ...suspension...revocation...in NC once it transfers.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:13 am 
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Do SC tickets still transfer over to NC? I know they didn't use to, then they changed it so they did. If they still transfer over, ask for a reduction, or a PJC. Unless you pick up a lawyer that will work miracles for you and get it tossed for faulty equipment or some such nonsense. If it doesn't transfer, then I wouldn't worry about it. Pay the fine and walk away. As for 15 over, that's usually for the higher speeds, I believe that there's even one that states if your stopped doing over 80 then that's also an immediate loss of license. BUT, they don't actually take you license until well after your court date, so you still have time to tear up the road. :twisted:

CN: You should be fine, just double check if the SC ticket does transfer to NC before getting a lawyer. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:36 am 
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Assume everything transfers now days, including federal tickets on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Unless of course you get stopped for speeding in Kansas and the officer basically says "we're charging you with xyz instead of speeding and that way you can just mail it in and not have to worry about out of state transfers and problems with your insurance." Hypothetically speaking, of course.

But if you get a speeding ticket, assume it will make it back to NC and they will simply apply the points and/or revoke if it is an offense worthy. I *think* you're right about the fact that yours wouldn't result in loss of license, but the point penalty you'd get makes it worth getting a lawyer for. Usually in SC (but not always) they'll drop out of state stuff to non moving violations pretty easily with the right lawyer.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:14 am 
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Not sure where you got your ticket but when my wife got one the trooper told her to write the magistrate a nice letter. She did and got the points drop and the fine reduced. Her was 75 in a 55 if I remember right.


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 Post subject: PJC
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:07 pm 
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Regardless of what you decide to do, NEVER do a PJC! If you are stopped again during the "probationary" period, there is no mercy available and BOTH offenses become due and payable. Then the license points and insurance points show up all at once! Insurance companies pray for that scenario :D

My advice (ahem... based on personal experience) is to get a lawyer and pay for his expertise. Chances are you'll get off completely or with just a fine and 2 license points. No insurance points (that's your goal, anyway!). Your infraction doesn't approach anything of real significance, so most of your money will probably be lawyer fees, but money well-spent. Beats the hell out of an extra $300/yr. in liablility insurance. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: PJC
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:32 pm 
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Couldn't agree more with Brad.

You save the PJC for when you really screw up. A speeding ticket for +16 isn't it. Get the lawyer, preferably one local to where you got the ticket. You should have a dozen of them soliciting you in the mail by now... It should be "fixed" to be improper equipment.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:11 am 
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I bought my v1 after a speeding ticket coming home from Laurinburg earlier in the year. (Lawyer got me an 'improper equipment' :)) It immediately saved my co-driver's arse coming home from Walnut Ridge, AK at 2am in the morning.

Worth every penny. I need to get another for the 2 cars just so I don't have to keep switching it out. - AB

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I'd like a V-1, but I'm not sure it would have prevented this ticket or not. He pegged me while moving behind me and the road snakes up, down and all around. It was a brand new car so I'm guessing the latest and greatest: instant on....laser?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:23 am 
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If it *wasn't* laser, I think you'd be surprised how good a V1 is at sniffing out radar, even instant on. So long as he shoots at *somebody* within some reasonable distance, you'll probably get a hit.

Of course if it was laser, all the V1 is going to tell you, if it tellls you anything, is to get your license and registration out.

Highly recommended for V1 users is a remote display. The new car has one built into the bezel around the gauge cluster: http://www.nogumracing.com/karl/images/ ... C00583.JPG
and the mute button has been relocated to the left hand side of the steering column, just under the turn signal stalk. Very stealth.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:38 am 
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They help with instant-on, too, provided there's enough traffic. They are so sensitive that they usually pick up instant-on blips when the officer is hitting someone else before he's even in range of you. It's no guarantee, but having one has saved me a bunch of tickets.

I got stopped doing 71 in a 55 recently, though, and had the V1. It was instant-on and a curve he popped out of and hit me before the Excursion could do much braking (had a small trailer, which obviously didn't help). Here's what I do:

First, remove V1 quickly. Toss out of sight. Do it before the officer gets close enough to see you doing it. If he comes up from behind without you seeing him in time to remove it without him seeing it, skip this step (and you're probably hosed anyway).

Next, pull over at the first *safe* spot. You're going to annoy him far less by driving a little ways (make it obvious you see him by slowing appropriately) and finding a good place to get him out of the road than if you stop where he's got to worry about getting run over.

Before he's even out of his car, get your drivers side window down and have both hands visible on the steering wheel. Do not bother trying to get documentation out first. Just do this. Trust me. Oh, if it's dark, do the above *and* make sure and turn your interior lights on. Oh, cut your car completely off. Make sure any passengers know to keep their traps shut and their hands in plain site the entire time.

Once he approaches, do not try to play dumb. Do not try to play sad. Simply answer his questions honestly (though you can fudge a bit if you *need* to avoid self incrimination...I never answer "how fast do you think you were going?" with anything other than "oh, I suppose I could have been going a bit over the speed limit" or similar). Here's the real kicker: DO NOT TRY TO TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF IT. Simply be INCREDIBLY polite (though not to the point it sounds like you might be faking it) by using all those manner things you were taught at some point. They LOVE 'yes sir" and "no sir." They love not being asked for help. They love simple and safe.

So, continuing on with safe. When he does ask you for license and registration, tell him where you're going to get them. In my case I would usually say "okay, I'm getting my license out of my front right pocket, sir." When I pull it out I also hand him my concealed carry permit and I inform him of my armed status (so far I have been unarmed when stopped, so it's been easy...I'm not sure what to expect when I am armed, but again, constant and thorough communication will probably make things fine). When I go to get the registration I say "I'm getting the registration out of the glove box, sir."

Hand him the documentation. Don't offer any other info.

A couple times now I've followed this exactly after being clocked by the Highway Patrol (yes, those dirty rats who never let anyone off and who never reduce anything on the spot...and no, I don't think they're dirty rats, I'm just rattling off the common thing people seem to say in this situation) for speeding of enough that I should have been given an actual ticket. And I've now been let go with a warning and nothing else. Including the above 71 in a 55.

I don't know if I've just been *really* lucky, or if the concealed carry permit helps some, or if the Class A license helps some, or if all the politeness and safety and not trying to talk my way out of it is what did it. I'm guessing it's some combination of it all. I'd bet it has more to do with the safety things and the politeness and not asking for "help" on it, though. And I'm also quite sure that you (and I) might try this to the letter and have it not work at all. But I'm just posting what has worked best for me to avoid the lawyer.

Past all that, lawyer up. It'll be cheaper and FAR less aggravation in the long run.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:41 am 
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Donnie Barnes wrote:
my concealed carry permit


Mental note to self, Donnie is packing heat, dont piss Donnie off....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:56 am 
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Hey Donnie, that's *excellent* advice and exactly what I follow (except the concealed carry thing).

I'm constantly amazed at people who pull over in unsafe spots.

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