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This is one of the better segments I've seen lately. It's ironic because I was just recently playing GT 2 (no laughing- I'm a techno grouch) and during the endurance race was wondering how authentic some of the car's times actually were. Anyhow, this is not a bad way to spend 10 minutes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... laystation

I've got to get the play station out and see if I can beat the 1:41. It seems I've done that before and was faster. But I always do the suspension and engine mods

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2004 C5(415whp,390ft/lbs),
1997C5,1997Trans Am, 1986 C4,
1990 Miata, 1976 MGB,1997 Protege, 1989 MR2

I had to try it. I went to Arcade mode and Time Trial, select the Acura NSX, I even choose the same color, blue. I didn't change anything on the car.
Took me a few laps to learn the car and get in the 1:41 time range. The best I did was 1:40.8. I decided to change the tire form Sport medium to Sport soft.
The car handle better and the best time was 1:39.2. Spending more time on it, faster time can be done, but not huge gain.

Patrice

I turned on my playstation and it no longer works!!!!! but the xbox has FORZA and I found I only can get in the 1:57s on that one. maybe FORZA is more realistic than Gran Tourismo?????

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2004 C5(415whp,390ft/lbs),
1997C5,1997Trans Am, 1986 C4,
1990 Miata, 1976 MGB,1997 Protege, 1989 MR2

The cars are definitely harder to drive in Forza than Gran Turismo. Forza really takes some getting used to - Gran Turismo is for hacks.

Makes sense that it is slower to me.... Xbox's OS is made by Microsoft

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2001 Honda S2000 - SOLD
2012 Boss 302
2003 BMW 330i

Is it having problems reading the cd or is it just not turning on?

I recently picked up GT4 again to find my disk had gotten so scratched the PS2 wouldn't play it. I actually took the cd to the garage and hit it up with car wax.

With the scratches removed the disc and the playstation are both happy again.

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Emmett

Chevrolet Cobalt SS

ok, I have Forza. I will have to dust if off and try it out in my new Xbox 360 to see what time I can set with the NSX at Laguna Seca. We are talking totally stock, with no mods right?

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

oh, and I watched the video. I wish he had mentioned how much (if any) playing the PS2 helped him get up to speed on the track. I think that would have been a better thing to comment on. I am not suprised at all about not being able to replicate the times. Using braking points, etc. from the game is just insane.

When Forza was about to be released months ago, there was an interesting article in Popular Science about it.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/automotive ... drcrd.html

They basically have two people (one is a pro driver) play the game and drive for real at Road Atlanta. Basically they were trying to decide how close the game was to the real thing.

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

I think him commenting on fear and the possibility of accident but driving without a helmet was a little ironic.

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Rich
http://www.v8mongrel.com/

Well the entire (apparent) lack of safety in that show is an entire topic.

It is pretty obvious why you can crank out fast times in computer games. The lack of physical harm allows you to take crazy risks that you couldn't do in real life. Or at a minium accelerate the learning curve by allowing lots of mistakes with no penalty. The Pop Sci article about Forza mentions this as well as how others who do simulations (such as the military) have this problem. The solution that the military uses (according to the article) is high voltage shocks to those using the simulation when they screw up (cue reference to negative reinforcement and its effect on ESP from the movie Ghostbusters. Isn't it funny when the gum falls out of that guys mouth when Bill Murray shocks him!).

Tape a stun gun to your crotch and then rig it up to your controller so that excessive force feedback/rumble sets it off and I will "guarantee" that you will drive more carefully in GT or Forza.

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

Christ!! I'd rather take my chances doing the real thing with the vette and take the chance of wrecking rather than That!!!! God It hurts just to think about it... ..

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2004 C5(415whp,390ft/lbs),
1997C5,1997Trans Am, 1986 C4,
1990 Miata, 1976 MGB,1997 Protege, 1989 MR2

I pulled out Forza to see what I could do. With the stock 2004 NSX-R at Laguna Seca with no driver aids and with manual transmission, I was able to do a 1:39.7. Most times were in the 1:41 range.

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

You the man Richard!!!! I've gotten the time down to 1:43's after about fifteen or twenty runs

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2004 C5(415whp,390ft/lbs),
1997C5,1997Trans Am, 1986 C4,
1990 Miata, 1976 MGB,1997 Protege, 1989 MR2