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 Post subject: Pontiac Solstice
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:33 pm 
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What do you folks think about this car's autocross potential? I think I read in grassroots that it is going to have 18x8.5 wheels with 245 width tires all around. That's the same width as the front of my C5. :shock: You could stuff some pretty good size race rubber on that thing. 170+ hp..... rear wheel drive...... 2 seater...... supposibly under 25k loaded.

Go to www.pontiac.com if you aren't familiar with it. It should be on the front page.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:08 pm 
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2866 lbs? That's only 140 lbs less than my Contour SVT.

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Wes Eargle wrote:
2866 lbs? That's only 140 lbs less than my Contour SVT.

Raise your hand if you're a big fat pig.


Eh.... I didn't notice that. That is hefty for such a small car.


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And what will that new Miata weigh?

Most of these newer cars seem to be getting more portly with the additions of all the crash hardware. Reenforced doors, side air bags, etc...

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 Post subject: Re: Pontiac Solstice
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Chris Overcash wrote:
18x8.5 wheels




That will help offset the pork. Of course it will also help offset alot of $$ in your bank account :roll:

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Wes Eargle wrote:
2866 lbs? That's only 140 lbs less than my Contour SVT.

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Yes its heavier than a miata, but think how much tire can fit on an 8 1/2 in. wide rim.... 255 or maybe even 275's. Now thats a lot of tire for a 2800lb car. I've also read it's got a chassis thats very rigid, similar to the C5 vert.

Oh yeah.. and how much tire can be squeezed under the fenders of a 3000lb contour? 205's maybe? :lol:

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Graham Jagger wrote:
Most of these newer cars seem to be getting more portly with the additions of all the crash hardware. Reenforced doors, side air bags, etc...

Graham


Crash hardware is over rated!!!!!

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Dan Ecclestone wrote:
Oh yeah.. and how much tire can be squeezed under the fenders of a 3000lb contour? 205's maybe? :lol:


225s. All that you need for a good cruise into Kroger. :P

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hmmm.....guess those few extra pounds haven't hurt based on results this year :lol:

Amazing what big tires will do... 8)

Where has/will the GXP model be classed?


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GXP/Redline is in AS.


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 Post subject: Re: Pontiac Solstice
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Chris Overcash wrote:
What do you folks think about this car's autocross potential? I think I read in grassroots that it is going to have 18x8.5 wheels with 245 width tires all around. That's the same width as the front of my C5. :shock: You could stuff some pretty good size race rubber on that thing.

I understand that they're wearing 285's in autox trim at the nationals

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The New Miata was not the lightweight it use to be at 2600 lbs woith options.

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The post below was made by Erik Vandermay on miataforum.net.


How about this:

#1 in CS (Pontiac Solstice) had a total time of 101.697

That would have placed 7th is SS,
That would have placed 1st in AS (identical time to winner),
That would have placed 1st in BS (~0.7 sec faster than winner).

Each of the other classes ran in warmer temps than CS (AS and BS considerably warmer mid-70s vs low to mid 60s for CS).

Also, every Solstice that was entered in CS trophied (including one driver that coned all three runs on Thursday).

Hmmm...



Here are a few of my own thoughts....

There is no doubt the Solstice/Sky will be the car to have in C Stock, likely for a long time. From talking to my friends and competitors who've switched to the Solstice they all say that it is easier to drive fast than the Miata or Spyder. Also, guys that I usually run dead even with in Miatas as early as a few months ago are now beating me soundly...as well as other folks who've never beaten me are now running close to and/or are beating me in my 1999 Miata, so there is no question in my mind that the Solstice is a really solid car. If someone is looking for a car that will likely be competitive, if not "the" car to have in CS for a long time, this would probably be a good investment. Unfortunately, you'll have to either tow it or figure out how to install a hitch for tire trailer since there's barely enough storage room in the Solstice for a box of tissues much less four tires :-) That makes it a more expensive car to autocross.


I've heard lots of folks talking this week about buying a Solstice GXP for A Stock next year. The GXP is definitely more bang for the buck than the CS version, w/o a doubt, but there is more risk in buying the GXP since no one knows how it will stack up in class. Though, it's hard to imagine the GXP being slower than the CS version that theorhetically just outran AS and BS at nationals.

Just my 2 cents.

Eric P.


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according to C&D this month the GXP accelerates from 30 to 50 @ 3.1 seconds faster than the Solstice. braking is relatively unchanged and the skidpad grip is 0.06 g less.


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