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 Post subject: Re: your first car
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:58 pm 
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1972 Super Beetle "Baja" edition. Looked just like this one. Drove the hell out of it, wrecked it when someone in a Honda Civic turned left in front of me, which allowed me to get the insurance payoff, pay back my Dad for the $$ he loaned me to buy the car AND pay a backyard bodyman to fix the car for me (might have had a few $$'s left over to buy gas).

Sold this one and bought a 1973 VW Thing- really wish I still had that car.


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You sure this pic is of a super beetle? I thought they had the curved front windshield. As for the thing, yeah, you shoulda kept that one. I have about 4 cars I wished I'd been able to keep....



Absolutely 100% sure it's a Super Beetle. They did have curved windshields sometime later in production (73 or 74 IIRC). And the main difference was the front struts in the super beetle vs torsion bar front end for all other beetles. The nose and the front fenders are slightly different on the Super vs non as well, and the spare tire sits in the front trunk completely flat (horizontal) in the super vs at a ~45* angle in the non super.


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 Post subject: Re: your first car
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:20 am 
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hmm it woulda been 1986 I got my first car it was a 1972 delta 88 with a 350 rocket, I was on the football team and the first kid with a license, it was like a clown car we could fit at least 8 in the back seat

small town life, we got to burn the rubber off the tires friday before the game the local cop did not care

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 Post subject: Re: your first car
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:24 am 
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wow, so this is everyone that's posted? I'd be willing to bet this is a sign of this forum slowing down substantially. I don't think this is even due to FB. I think this is people being tired of having so many outlets to post stuff we're starting to burn out on this inter-connectivity. Sign of the times I guess... I think it's just a matter of time when there's going to be a national "unplug" day. You simply go outside, lay down on the lawn on a nice day and look at the clouds and let your imagination go wild watching bunny rabbits and dragons go floating by...

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 Post subject: Re: your first car
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Ok Rodney to make you happy. :)

I am not sure if this is "first car you owned" or "first car you drove". I will do both...

1. Learned to drive in a field using what was probably a mid-1970's Ford F350 dually with a flat wooden bed. Before we owned it, it was a service truck for a Caterpillar dealership my Dad had worked for.
2. Late 1970's CJ5 (red cloth top). Drove this most of high school.
3. Late 1970's or early 1980's Oldmobile Cutlass with t-top. (White exterior and red interior!)
4. Late 1970's F150 (blue and rusty)
5. Early or mid 1980 F150 with a straight six and manual transmission (I miss that truck)
6. Mid 1980's Oldmobile Delta 88. That car was huge! (burgundy)
7. 1973 Porsche 914/4 1.7L.

The 914 was the first car that was actually mine. Everything else was the ongoing series of used cars my Dad bought.

I don't have photos, but here are some that somewhat match in order from above...

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CJ5
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T-top Olds
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F150
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F150
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Oldmobile Delta 88
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914
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 Post subject: Re: your first car
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Awesome 914 Richard! I love those cars and have a lot of seat time from the 1970s in a 1973 914 2.0!


Ok, starting with first car driven, my older sister taught me how to drive/let me drive when I was 13 back in 1972. Car was a 1969 VW Bug, blue, like this one:


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Second car I ever drove, same year, 1972 was my Dad's 1968 Firebird 350 H.O. with a 4 speed Hurst shifter. My sister was confused about how to do a burnout, so I convinced her to let me try, and I succeeded on my first attempt -- already having 5 years of reading HotRod, Car and Driver and Road and Track magazines were helpful. Car looked just like this one:

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Just a month or so later, she was attempting to do a burnout in front of a friend's house late one night with my coaching (apparently my first instructor assignment), and she massively over-revved the engine while the whole time I'm yelling SHIFT, SHIFT, SHIFT! Ah, for the days when there was no such thing as a rev limiter... My dad actually repaired it himself, which shouldn't have been surprising given his mechanical engineering background, but it wasn't like him to work on his cars at that point. Fortunately, it was just a broken rocker arm and an easy repair. He asked me if I knew what happened, and I told him the truth.

First car I ever owned was years later, a 1976 Mercury Capri II (imported from Germany version Capri of the 70s) with a V6 and 4MT. Here's a pic of it after I had owned it a few years, probably 1979:
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That car I had Tom Wyatt of Turbo Tom's in Atlanta help me build a nice engine with a radical Isky cam, higher comp pistons, Offenhauser dual plane manifold with a 4bbl Holley, headers, etc. Eventually, that engine saw its demise in 1980 at guess where? Old Rocky Mount Airport during a THSCC autocross. I way, way over-revved (no rev limiter coming into play here again) it in one 1st gear section since it would just pull like crazy at high revs, and it cracked a piston.

The next car I owned was the dark blue 1972 BMW Bavaria in the background of the pic above. My dad was trying to trade it in sometime in 1980, and the best offer he could get for it was $1200. He sold it to me for $1000. I owned it for the next 14 years.

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 Post subject: Re: your first car
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keep 'em coming guys, very cool stories and cars....

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 Post subject: Re: your first car
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My first car was a Renault R8

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My 2nd car was a 1978 Honda Civic blue like this one.

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Here is my daughter's first car. It's a '95 Honda Civic that I originally bought as a backup chassis for the Duff car in case we ever smashed it up too badly. I had something nicer planned for her, but she won't drive a manual and this was the only thing sitting around with an automatic and a title. I'm driving it this week to work out all of the bugs (there are many bugs) and she gets it as soon as she's got enough supervised hours for her license:

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Awesome 914 Richard! I love those cars and have a lot of seat time from the 1970s in a 1973 914 2.0!

Just to be clear, that is not a photo of the one I had, but it is pretty close. It was that color, had that bumper style and slightly different wheels (Pedrini instead of Fuchs). I am on my third 914. First was the 73 1.7L I mentioned above. It was actually billed as a 2.0L in the "for sale" ad and I didn't know enough to tell the difference back then so we later realized it was a 1.7L when I pulled the engine apart to redo the top end. This was pre-internet days so it was harder to research info (such as engine code and being able to recognize 2.0L heads from the outside). My Dad and I drove to Baltimore to buy the car and I drove it back. It had a leak in the brake master cylinder (discovered that while driving it back). The pedal would start to go to the floor so we would have to pull over to put more fluid in it. Did that a few times during the trip. The master cylinder mounts low on the floorboard (pedal hinges on floor and not up high on firewall) and there is a small depression on the floorboard. When we got home we discovered where all the leaking fluid went. It had filled up that depression. I still can't believe I drove that car from Baltimore to Charleston, WV with such questionable brakes! Or that my Dad was OK with it. I was young and invincible so risks like that wouldn't have bothered me then. :D This would have been somewhere around 1985 (+/-).

I learned a lot about car repair on that car. I did top end rebuild on the engine, rebuilt the transmission, brakes, suspension, etc. All from just a Haynes manual! I autocrossed that car as well, but was always short on money, so I was using cast off tires that were effectively worn out by the time I got them. So I was never competitive. Not to mention I was still learning to drive. One of my largest regrets is not having more photos from that time period including one with me parked next to a Porsche 904 at an autocross. Sadly, that car was totalled during some late night back road racing (I still thought I was invincible then). :( The car was replaced by a 1974 914 2.0L. I drove that second car through college and for about a year or so after that once married. In that car I had replaced the stock muffler with Porsche megaphones which had zero baffles in them. It probably actually didn't make the car faster, but it "sounded" faster. In town I became the master at throttle management to keep it somewhat quiet. But otherwise it was LOUD. I lived a few miles from work and that involved getting on the interstate and driving to the next exit and then getting off. My wife said in the mornings she could hear me drive all the way to work including getting off the interstate! I moved to NC after about a year of marriage and left the car in WV, but poorly stored and it was eventually eaten by rust. The third 914 is the one I have now which is a 1972. I will eventually get the 72 on the road.

Oh, I see what looks to be white 914 peeking out from behind your Capri!

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Richard Casto wrote:
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Awesome 914 Richard! I love those cars and have a lot of seat time from the 1970s in a 1973 914 2.0!

Just to be clear, that is not a photo of the one I had, but it is pretty close. It was that color, had that bumper style and slightly different wheels (Pedrini instead of Fuchs). I am on my third 914. First was the 73 1.7L I mentioned above. It was actually billed as a 2.0L in the "for sale" ad and I didn't know enough to tell the difference back then so we later realized it was a 1.7L when I pulled the engine apart to redo the top end. This was pre-internet days so it was harder to research info (such as engine code and being able to recognize 2.0L heads from the outside). My Dad and I drove to Baltimore to buy the car and I drove it back. It had a leak in the brake master cylinder (discovered that while driving it back). The pedal would start to go to the floor so we would have to pull over to put more fluid in it. Did that a few times during the trip. The master cylinder mounts low on the floorboard (pedal hinges on floor and not up high on firewall) and there is a small depression on the floorboard. When we got home we discovered where all the leaking fluid went. It had filled up that depression. I still can't believe I drove that car from Baltimore to Charleston, WV with such questionable brakes! Or that my Dad was OK with it. I was young and invincible so risks like that wouldn't have bothered me then. :D This would have been somewhere around 1985 (+/-).

I learned a lot about car repair on that car. I did top end rebuild on the engine, rebuilt the transmission, brakes, suspension, etc. All from just a Haynes manual! I autocrossed that car as well, but was always short on money, so I was using cast off tires that were effectively worn out by the time I got them. So I was never competitive. Not to mention I was still learning to drive. One of my largest regrets is not having more photos from that time period including one with me parked next to a Porsche 904 at an autocross. Sadly, that car was totalled during some late night back road racing (I still thought I was invincible then). :( The car was replaced by a 1974 914 2.0L. I drove that second car through college and for about a year or so after that once married. In that car I had replaced the stock muffler with Porsche megaphones which had zero baffles in them. It probably actually didn't make the car faster, but it "sounded" faster. In town I became the master at throttle management to keep it somewhat quiet. But otherwise it was LOUD. I lived a few miles from work and that involved getting on the interstate and driving to the next exit and then getting off. My wife said in the mornings she could hear me drive all the way to work including getting off the interstate! I moved to NC after about a year of marriage and left the car in WV, but poorly stored and it was eventually eaten by rust. The third 914 is the one I have now which is a 1972. I will eventually get the 72 on the road.

Oh, I see what looks to be white 914 peeking out from behind your Capri!

Richard


Wow, nice 914 stories! It's amazing you still have one. I've not driven a 914 in well over 30 years. :(

The one in the background is a 1973 914 2.0 my Dad bought in late 1972. It was one of the first 2.0s in the country, so at the time it came without the "2.0" on the back since Porsche was still deciding whether to call it the 914S, like some of their adds showed at the time, or the 2.0. That was a fun car as you know, and I learned a heck of a lot about trailing throttle oversteer in that car. I remember one back road in Atlanta where I overcooked a corner, spun three times and came to rest about 20' from a telephone pole just off the side of the road. Like you say though, I was young and invincible too, so I looked both ways, popped it into 1st gear and was back on the road.

Here's a picture of that car in ~1976. It was silver, not white. Too bad it's not still around given the '73 2.0 is the most desirable 4cyl 914 and all.

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Chuck Branscomb wrote:
and I learned a heck of a lot about trailing throttle oversteer in that car. I remember one back road in Atlanta where I overcooked a corner, spun three times and came to rest about 20' from a telephone pole just off the side of the road. Like you say though, I was young and invincible too, so I looked both ways, popped it into 1st gear and was back on the road.[/img]

I think I have told this story here before, but it was likely years ago...

The wreck that totalled mine was somewhat similar. It was on a rural two lane road. The road was slightly on the hillside (hill on left) and I wrecked in a small right hand kink that was uphill and then peaked right in the middle of the turn and then dropped back down. Not a large elevation change. But a combo of high speed (probably close to 90 MPH), the change in direction with the kink, peak and then elevation change (which lightened the car mid corner) and likely a little lift by me due to pucker factor, resulted in a quick snap spin. I went off the road on the inside of the curve when effectively mean flying through the air a bit like a frisbee. I caught a metal pole for a church sign just behind my head and it somewhat folded the car, but also snapped off the pole. I landed in the church parking lot. I had nothing more than a bit of a burn from the seat belt and a few scratches. So far that has been the luckiest moment in my life! As the police showed up (I think fire or EMT was already there), I was standing on side of the parking lot with a few people and the officer walked up and said "How many pieces was he in?" (implying the driver) I said "one". :)

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