Tire rack street survival Oct 26th and 27th

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:39 pm

I'm in for both days. I sent an e-mail to Kraig Klippel too.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Here's what you guys are in for

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:53 pm

Do we have 3 timing setups? How are we going to score this exercise?

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:43 pm

Also, I can help set up on Friday. Just let me know when to be there.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Roger McDaniels wrote:

Also, I can help set up on Friday. Just let me know when to be there.

Hey Roger, that would be great. We'll finalize the time during our last planning call on Tue, but I'd expect 1-1:30 pm or so. We'll start by laying out the map above, then I'll freak out about safety and change a bunch of stuff

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:52 am

Roger McDaniels wrote:

Do we have 3 timing setups? How are we going to score this exercise?

Scoring? Ain't going to happen here. Nothing is timed, this is simply getting students to understand car control and give them feedback on the elements. Watch their hand control and watch there head to see where they are looking. In the 2nd part of the day you'll also be a distraction to the students. Amazing to see how bad they suck driving when they have to count or do the alphabet while driving :twisted:

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:58 am

MikeWhitney wrote:

Here's what you guys are in for

Very nice job on the setup Mike, I think you've created a nice event and maximized the space for the elements. Good to see the optional figure 8, blind spot and reverse backing. We missed those last year. Only thing that's missing is dropping the wheels off the road. Great job!

Damn I hate I'm going to miss this... stupid on call... Next year I'll make sure my on call doesn't conflict. :thumbsup:

Pete Guthrie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:54 am

The wrx is doing well. We actually did a rally cross on a bum axle it turns out, a boot had torn. We have a spare at home here, and will change it out today.align it best we can, and we have some old auto x slicks to use for disposable tires.Failing that, we have the z3! that could be fun on the wet skid pad! rwd, light weight relatively, and plenty of torque.

Andrew Jonell · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:43 pm **Posts:** 1350

I figure I should ask for permission versus forgiveness... how bad of an idea would it be to bring the Miata out this weekend?

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:30 am

I was going to bring the Duff car. There's no sense bringing the minivan if I might get a chance to get on a skid pad. I realize that the purpose of the event is to help teenagers learn how to drive, but if there is a chance that we'll get to do the skid pad while we're there, then I can't see where we wouldn't want to bring whatever our normal motorsports car is. I wasn't going to bring the tow rig, although if I'm there all day for two days, then a nice air conditioned lounge might be good to have, but it seems excessive, plus I've got about half-a-dozen engines and transmissions in it that I don't feel like unloading this week.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

With regards to instructors driving: There is some time on the schedule for instructors to familiarize themselves with the course. Keep in mind: (1) a bunch of 16-18 year old kids are watching, and they are very impressionable. Don't do anything you would not want to see them do with you in the right seat. (2) any behavior that puts this site at risk for future events is unacceptable.

Behave yourselves, in other words, and try to act like a professional!

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:40 pm

MikeWhitney wrote:

With regards to instructors driving: There is some time on the schedule for instructors to familiarize themselves with the course. Keep in mind: (1) a bunch of 16-18 year old kids are watching, and they are very impressionable. Don't do anything you would not want to see them do with you in the right seat. (2) any behavior that puts this site at risk for future events is unacceptable.

Behave yourselves, in other words, and try to act like a professional!

To add to Mikes comments, don't bring anything racing related to the event, bring your street / daily drivers. In the morning as an instructor you'll have access to the course. Try to look at it from a students perspective. You'll be giving a lot of directions and feedback during the day. Explain the elements to them and what you expect during the day.

During lunch you'll also have access to the elements. I wouldn't do any major prep to the car, just set the tire pressures to factory and see what you can do on course. Students are going to be in the same situation. TRSS rules state to have students cars set to factory settings since that's what they'll be driving on the street, ie: no over inflated tires.

You can still have some fun on the elements in the DD. If you're on the skid pad and you get into a "push" situation, you can better relate to telling a student to "open up the wheel" and "lift" off of the gas to regain control of the car.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Apparently the bus is a bit disorganized and the cones are a mess from the rallycross. I'd like to do a mini-cleanup day here at my house this Thursday evening before taking the bus down for setup on Friday.

Who's willing to help out? If we get enough people, let's say 5-8pm. If anyone wants to work earlier, I'll try to get it here by 3pm but I will be working until 5.

Address is 112 Picturesque LN, Cary.

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:02 am

I could help on Thursday, but probably only for an hour or so.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:15 am

I'll be there.

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