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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:30 pm 
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JamesShort wrote:
orthogonal.


Nerd.


You did realize this before now right?


I'm just reminding him.

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:32 pm 
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Sounds like the easiest solution is to just ban kids from our events. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:38 pm 
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JamesMilko wrote:
Sounds like the easiest solution is to just ban kids from our events. :wink:



Either that or run over them outside the gate....................




Apparently James you don't remember the "Kid's Corral"

Again, the reason I pay Dr. Cline-n-Stein so much money is because he is always on "worst case scenario watch", as in fuc**** Remchak is going to rear end a C4S or worse yet hand me a Budweiser swill thingy........... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:14 am 
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JamesShort wrote:
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Well you bring up an important point. For instance IF we were to run at the Burlington site which has multiple ingress and egress points, non participating pedestrians could be an issue.


I was thinking about participaiting(course workers) pedestrians.

I understand and I answered with that assumption. But you sparked an orthogonal thought regarding non participants.


Many current AXers may not recall, but when we ran at RBC Center for the Night Series, we "wrapped" the entire parking lot perimeter in caution tape and had 2 roaming "safety workers" who's sole job was to make sure people stayed where they should, spectators were outside the danger zones, and everybody signed the waiver. I haven't seen the new sites nor do I know what the current administration is doing at events, but may be worth dredging up some of these old methods if not already in play....

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JamesMilko wrote:
Sounds like the easiest solution is to just ban kids from our events. :wink:


I'm glad I wasn't the first to suggest that, but it was my first thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
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Many current AXers may not recall, but when we ran at RBC Center for the Night Series...

Ahhh, the memories. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
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Somebody was asking me about this so I wanted to get it to the top of the forums for anybody who hadn't seen it.

One thing that may not have been brought up is this exclusion is for amounts ABOVE the minimium limits of liability. That means you would still have 30k per person 60k per accident for bodily injury and 25k for property damage. That is if your car is insured. While not a lot, at least it would help if some jackwagon sues you for running over his foot on the way out of the paddock.

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:29 am 
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Cline, is it the minimum limits for liability per the policy, or minimum state required amounts regardless if your policy has higher than the minimum requirements? - AB

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:49 am 
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Aaron Buckley wrote:
Cline, is it the minimum limits for liability per the policy, or minimum state required amounts regardless if your policy has higher than the minimum requirements? - AB

Liability Exclusion B.3. is being added to exclude liability coverage in excess of the minimum limits required by the financial responsibility law of North Carolina for damages arising out of any prearranged, organized or spontaneous racing contest, speed contest, demolition, stunt activity or competitive driving event (including any practice or preparation for such an event). The exclusion also excludes liability coverage in excess of the minimum limits required by the financial responsibility law of North Carolina for damages arising out of the use of a vehicle at any facility designed for racing or high performance driving, unless it is being used for purposes other than high speed or high performance driving.

That means the minimum state required amounts regardless if your policy has higher than minimum requirements-to use your words.

The policy has always had this wording in the event of pre-arranged racing or theft. This is another reason to have underinsured motorist coverage on your policy

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:11 am 
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Cline,

Does anyone sell personal liability insurance for track events and autocross events? Are they even allowed to sell that in our state?

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:17 pm 
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Chuck Branscomb wrote:
Cline,

Does anyone sell personal liability insurance for track events and autocross events? Are they even allowed to sell that in our state?

Not that I'm aware of, I think it would be something that companies would have to charge way to much for the work and risk involved verses the amount of folks that might be interested in the coverage.

These are the big dogs in the arena as far as I know:
http://www.kandkinsurance.com/Motorspor ... vents.aspx

you might check with them

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
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Well it appears this is going to be tested in the courts. I just got a call from somebody who is involved in the death at Summit Point (they had found a blog I had done on this subject). Turns out the driver of the car was from NC and the family of the deceased has retained council. Nationwide insures the the car and had denied coverage but there is probably going to be a law suit so I will keep you updated.

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
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Yikes. Understandable, but a bad situation all around for everyone involved. Lawyers are going to have a field day with this, I suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
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I don't think there's enough popcorn to last for the entirety of this shitshow.

Definitely going to be interesting how this pans out regardless of what the outcome is.


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 Post subject: Re: Insurance exclusion now in NC
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:58 pm 
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clinehall wrote:
Liability Exclusion B.3. is being added to exclude liability coverage in excess of the minimum limits required by the financial responsibility law of North Carolina for damages arising out of any prearranged, organized or spontaneous racing contest, speed contest, demolition, stunt activity or competitive driving event (including any practice or preparation for such an event). The exclusion also excludes liability coverage in excess of the minimum limits required by the financial responsibility law of North Carolina for damages arising out of the use of a vehicle at any facility designed for racing or high performance driving, unless it is being used for purposes other than high speed or high performance driving.

That means the minimum state required amounts regardless if your policy has higher than minimum requirements-to use your words.

The policy has always had this wording in the event of pre-arranged racing or theft. This is another reason to have underinsured motorist coverage on your policy


Who is the yahoo that writes this crap? Is the royal "IT" in the bolded sentence the car or the facility? If I run someone over in the parking lot while attending a NASCAR race at Lowes Speedway, am I covered, or not covered? The facility is most certainly being used for racing. The car, not so much.

If there is a swap meet in the Speedway parking lot, then it's not ambiguous, but otherwise any halfassed attorney would have a field day with that writing.


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