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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:27 am 
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Thanks for all of the kind words. I actually feel great considering that when the car came to a stop, I had no feeling or movement below the waist. The EV team did an outstanding job. They cut out the driver's side of the cage, halo and took off the roof. That way they could lift straight uP and out. It was kind of surreal to sit there while they tore up my car.

I have a little pain, but a lot of weakness in the legs, which were imobilized for a few days. I've got a fair ammount of physical therapy ahead of me.

In short the safety gear did its job. The Hans was fantastic and I have no problem in my neck and upper spine. I'm not sure where the V12 vertibra crush came from. I did feel the sub belt catch me. They had a hell of a time cutting the cage out, so I have a lot of confidence in cages now, I was fully protected.

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:38 am 
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excellent news Colin! Glad to hear your doing well and that all you need is a little time to get back out on track. The car is replaceable, you're not, so glad to have you back and up and running albeit a little slow right now.

Any idea on when you'll be released from the hospital?

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:23 am 
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Colin,
It is great to see you posting. We are all thankful you will be OK. How is Debbie? She is a very sweet woman and I know she has been worried. It is one thing to see Sean knock teeth out and break arms, but your wreck is another.
Can you post photos of the car for the morbid among us to see?
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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:08 pm 
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Glad to see you post Colin! Let us know if there is anything we can do for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:35 pm 
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ColinOConnell wrote:
In short the safety gear did its job. The Hans was fantastic and I have no problem in my neck and upper spine. I'm not sure where the V12 vertibra crush came from. I did feel the sub belt catch me. They had a hell of a time cutting the cage out, so I have a lot of confidence in cages now, I was fully protected.


If you don't care do dissect this now (or ever), no problem, but I'm curious. If you felt the sub belt "catch" you, then that means you had movement from impact until it "caught." IMHO, that's bad. That means your sub belt wasn't in the right place or wasn't properly adjusted. I've seen a lot of seat situations I didn't like because the sub belt came through the seat well in front of your crotch, which means no amount of cinching is going to ever tighten it against your body. IMHO, the sub belt should come through the seat *just* behind your crotch such that when you tighten it, it goes around the jewels and "into" your crotch area against the groin on each side. That should prevent any movement into the sub area.

Why? Because anywhere there's room for movement of the torso means it can move. The belts are there to restrict movement so that one can not experience acceleration over time in a given direction. Since accidents can involve really high accelerations of anything "loose" when the car does an almost instant deceleration, it doesn't take but an inch or two of movement to generate speed and THEN once you suddenly stop that acceleration is when you have trauma. If you are belted in tight in ALL directions then you stop when the car stops. That's why the HANS is so important now, so that your head can't accelerate very long before IT stops, too.

My somewhat educated guess here is that your sub belt wasn't quite right. At impact, the car stopped but there was a force vector in the right direction to force your body downward and through the lap belts before the sub belt caught it. That caused your body to accelerate that direction (relative to the car...you're decelerating relative to earth, obviously) until the sub belt caught you. That means your body now has inertia toward the sub belt, and when the sub belt caught it, that inertia was nearly instantaneously stopped. And the weak link in your spinal chain was apparently V12. Probably mostly because of where it was and how it was getting bent as your body levered through the lap belt.

That's all my guess from the sound of things, anyway. It could have been that you were tight to the sub belt like you need to be and you simply had a force vector so large that it squished that vertebra, too. But given your comment about "feeling" the sub belt "catch" you and given how often I've seen sub belts that I didn't feel like were properly arranged, I can't help but rule it out. And in any event, I'm not trying to pick on you for doing something "wrong" or anything...shit happens. You're gonna be okay, and all that matters now is we try to learn whatever we can from it. I could be completely off base. But I've been in a lot of "other people's cars" and seen that sub belt thing first hand, too...


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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
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Sorry to pick nits....it sounds like T12 was fractured, not V12. T =thoracic spine. Right at the thoracolumbar junction, pretty typical location for rapid deceleration mechanism of spine fracture caused by flexion/compression.

Glad you are doing better!

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Steven Carter wrote:
Sorry to pick nits....it sounds like T12 was fractured, not V12. T =thoracic spine. Right at the thoracolumbar junction, pretty typical location for rapid deceleration mechanism of spine fracture caused by flexion/compression.

Glad you are doing better!


Yeah, I couldn't find V12, either, but just decided to keep using his terminology. I agree, looks like T12 from the stuff I found. I'm sure he's medicated, so he's got plenty of excuse! ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
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Glad to hear that the surgery went well. Hope you get to go home before too long and can recover there.

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:11 am 
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Yeah it's T12. I've had so many new termsb to learn this week.

I suspect a bad belt setup, like was mentioned.

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
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ColinOConnell wrote:
Yeah it's T12. I've had so many new termsb to learn this week.

I suspect a bad belt setup, like was mentioned.


Yeah man, I'm sure things are a little overwhelming right now. Get some good rest and just keep focused on whatever it takes to get well. You'll bounce back.


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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:50 pm 
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I think driving a car with a V12 would be a lot more fun than breaking my T12 :) Colin - hope your recovery goes well!

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I got a chance to visit Colin and Debbie in the hospital yesterday. Colin is in very good spirits and doing well with his PT and mobility.

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Very encouraging news!

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 Post subject: Re: Colin O'Connell - Accident
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Thanks for all of the positive thoughts.... and for the flowers from THSCC. I thought I'd update the thread.

I transferred from Winchester Medical Center near Summit Point to Pinehurst (Moore Regional) Hospital on Tuesday. A long ride, but worth it. Started Physical Therapy yesterday and everything is improving quickly. There's still a bit of weakness in the legs, but motor control and numbness are much better today. I should be out of the PT ward and sleeping at home by Wednesday. It may be months before I'm back to normal, but I should be 90% there in another week or two.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:40 pm 
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that is great to hear Colin!!!!!!!!!!!!

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