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Still wondering if anyone could point me to information which might answer this question...

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Mike Whitney
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Some info from Edmunds about NHTSA ... looks like they play a safety advisory role.

http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/safety ... ticle.html

Frank

Did you try Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_H ... nistration

My "understanding" over the years is that any "rules" such as the NHTSA regulations, FDA, FCC, FAA are a combination of laws which specify certain things and also laws which give authority to the involved department to create regulations after going through a "rule making" process which involves lots of hearings, public comment, etc. prior to a "rule" being adopted.

A recent example seems to be the FCC and efforts to keep the "internet open".

FYI for folks who don't like the "Nanny State" I assume this is selective. Is there anyone who wants to remove ALL government public safety/health laws and regulations . . . or just selected ones . . . Sort of like the folks who only consider some of the Constitution/Bill of Rights/Amendments to be important. (pick your side on that one with the recent "discussions" about the Times Square situation being an example).

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i believe SEMA is very into being a watchdog of government interference where cars are involved. you might want to look there Mike.

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another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

I did read the wikipedia article and it still isn't clear if this could just be a regular NHTSA item or if congress really needs to be involved in making an "act".

I have read enough of the repercussions of other multi-hundred page "acts" and "bills" recently to know that we should be fighting to see these rules go through one-at-a-time instead of with hundreds of pages of special interest laws thrown in that the public doesn't know about before they are signed into law.

I don't have a problem with a law specifying a minimum distance between pedals. I just want to know what else is going to be in the "Safety Act". More carbon regs? Horespower limitations? Non-defeatable stability? Black box recording? Other interventions?

A good example of "no one knew" is the $600 1099 requirement in the health care bill. Anyone with a small business who pays $600 or more to a supplier for any reason (parts, materials) is now required to file a 1099 for every transaction over that limit. Health care?

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Mike Whitney
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I'm not sure it's widely known, but it's illegal for you to remove an airbag in your own car. I believe you can do it if you're willing to give up your title (ie. for a race car), but outside of that it's illegal (there is one exception for handicapped folks where the airbag would be considered a safety problem, but if you do it based on that you must register your car in a federal database, or again, it's illegal).

I could understand requiring disclosure if this situation to the next owner, but having it be illegal at all to remove your own safety device like THIS? Really?

If we're already yielding to that kind of authority in the name of safety, what's to stop this mandate about pedal spacing at the manufacturer level to also be a requirement at the consumer level? Ie. it's ILLEGAL for you to change your own pedal spacing. *sigh*


--Donnie

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The wording is a bit ambiguous. It could also be interpreted to mean the distance from the pedal to the floor of the vehicle, to avoid the "floormat" type problems. I'd have to look in the text of the bill to see what it actually means.

talk about tacked on legislation. Did anyone else here know that part of the TARP bill was a subsidy for wooden arrows manufactured as children's toys (which happen to only be manufactured in Washington state)?

Really, I would vote for total gridlock in Congress if I could figure out how to do it. Everything they do is bad. Anyone in the 4th District who wants to help out, my wife is actually working with a campaign for BJ Lawson. He's the man btw. www.lawsonforcongress.com

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they're everywhere............. eeeeekk. and Price is a former Dookie Prof too Brice.......

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BenchWarmer Motorsports

another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

I actually think pedals are too close anyway. I have found very few cars where I can do traditional heel toe. Otherwise it's 'big toe little toe'. In fact I think the only car I could do 'heel toe' was a 71 350 Camaro with a muncie rock crusher. I think the brake was 5" from the throttle pedal .

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According to Bloomberg the bill in question repealed the 39 cent excise tax per arrow that covered wooden arrows toys so there's no subsidy as such, but rather a tax cut. Since the arrows cost around 39 cents each it was a 100% tax.

I'm sure there's pork in the bill somewhere, but the reason pork exists is competing interests. Tax breaks or subsidies for your own industry or region is considered reasonable, while the same for other industries or parts of the country is considered pork.

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Brice, please let me know your wife's email address. We hosted a neighborhood gathering with BJ last weekend, and I'm thoroughly impressed with this guy. I'd like to hear what she's been doing and get more involved myself.

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Mike Whitney
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Mike, You are a smart guy and are having trouble understanding this. Do you think they wrote it this way on purpose? I think so. I can think of at least two possible motivations. One, most people will accept the simple explanation and lies about the bill. Second, later, if convenient they can change the interpretation of the bill or act and say, "You didn't understand what we meant."

I haven't had time to read the bill, but will today. I do not expect to be able to understand it any better than anybody else.

I still maintain that this is just one small part of an overall goal of more governmental control and the loss of individual freedoms.

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I run a small business and was just discussing this with my accountant yesterday. 1099s have always been required, the law just didn't spell out spending limits. 1099s aren't for every transaction, but rather a year-end tally of everything you paid to someone working for you who's not an employee. The point is to keep businesses from having employees without paying payroll taxes, and to make sure the independent contractors are reporting all of their income. My understanding is it's not for physical goods, but for services.

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Read all the way to the end.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbu ... /index.htm

Also to Mike's original question, note the reference to the need for the IRS to issue its regulations. Apparently another example of what I suggested in my previous post which was that the laws are supplemented by agency regulations.

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Dick Rasmussen

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