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 Post subject: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:39 am 
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got my toes wet last November at my first rally-x and now i can't shake these visions of filthy sideways slides. so, i've acquired some 16" RS wheels and would love to find some cheap snow tires with a reasonable amount of life left in them to play in the dirt with this year. rally tires would be better yet, but it looks like 15" is the size to have for those, so i've kind of crossed them off the list.

preferred size: 205/55-16, but to be honest, any 16" snow in that general dimension would be considered. from what i gather, tires geared towards ice traction might be a little too soft, but what the heck do i know.

I'll pick up within 30 miles or so of the Southpoint area, or we can exchange at the next rally-x!

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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:53 am 
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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:31 pm 
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Scott, you probably want studable snows- as you said, the ice ones will be too soft.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 pm 
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Also... look at light truck tires

215/70R16 BFGoodrich All-Terrain

215/70R16 General Grabber AT 2

I'm not sure how well they would fit on your car, though.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:51 pm 
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gracias Brett. I'll keep an eye out for the lowest profile i can find in those models.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:34 pm 
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Scott, keep in mind that a true "snow tire" is formulated to work in freezing temperatures and very low lateral acceleration conditions, and despite the open tread pattern, they don't perform as well as an aggressive tread "all season" tire. The traditional "best" non-rally tire seemed to be the Dunlop SP60 (which is sadly no longer available). The original rally-x "rules/guidelines" forbade a tire with greater than 1/4" gaps in the tread which could eliminate some truck tires. Snow tires also tend to include lots of very tiny sipes in the tread to gather up snow and use the snow-on-snow connection for grip. The tiny sipes also give extra edges for gripping ice. On the other hand these same sipes can pack with slippery mud and make wet traction impossible in rally-x conditions. On the other hand, we typically don't run in really muddy conditions (at the request of the land owners).
As a general guide line, just look for an aggressive tread pattern without too many small sipes and with as stiff a side wall as possible (our lateral cornering forces can be pretty high, and the soft sidewalls can be a liability in soft dirt as it can pack into the bead area, especially if you turn the wheel too much and push).

http://tires.about.com/od/understanding_tires/a/Tire-Siping-What-The-Heck-Is-A-Sipe.htm Just in case you are unfamiliar with the term sipe.
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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:30 pm 
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Charlie, you raise some great points. I was pretty timid about using too much lock at the last rally-x for fear of bumping the bead off the rim and having to limp home on a spare. this might make me reconsider snows. i don't think i'm going to find used rally tires in 16's either.

part of the appeal though, was that i could get some "dual-use" out of snow tires by just driving on them during the winter as daily tires.

i'll keep the options open for all seasons...

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 Post subject: Re: WTB - 16" snow tires
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bridgestone potenza pole position all season 970. i have them on my car, from discount tire. Jeb and them put them on, and balanced them and all.
And they got put to the test at sandblast, so they are great tires to me.. They got us through some really muddy holes, without a peep. and are good and mostly quiet on the street. I will be at the next rallycross in my wrx, so wish me luck. I am pleased to hear, we have another person coming to so4. Mainly i will be in su2, but i cant resist playing with my main toy,(wrx). Tire rack, discount tire here in Raleigh, Performance chassis, many options. I went with discount tire to support our freinds.

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map for different discount tire places in Chapel Hill NC. Or use tire rack or someone if you wish.. I will see you in the dirt .Sign UP!

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