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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:41 am 
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Well the 2008 racing season got off to a pretty good start. It was debut of the new motor. Regardless of the ribbing for the distributor, the motor was stout on the dyno but had no track time on it.

Managed to get the Camaro out for one test session late Friday afternoon. The car felt strong and ran great. The track conditions were lousy due to all the rain, oil and dirt on it. But it was drying enough to be safe for a shake down session.

I managed to qualify 2nd (24th overall) on Saturday, knocking 1.5 seconds off my personal best for full course. I was pretty excited to be under the awning in the false grid, a first for me at VIR. My inexperience with the starts showed when I spun the rear tires at the drop of the green. That is not a good thing to do during the standing start. I dropped a number of positions and then found myself stick in the middle entering turn 1. I figure this is not good and squeezed to the inside. Most of the rest of the race was uneventful. Dodged a spinning H1 car in South Bend (pretty big pucker factor) and barely escaped a spinning factory five exiting Oak Tree. Finished 4th in class and 24th overall. I was on the lead lap the entire time and finished ahead of all the CMC2 cars. The downside was my fastest lap was 2 seconds slower than my qualifying time. I need to work on hitting the line during the race.

Sunday was kind of a weird schedule with the enduro happening later in the day. We had one practice session at 8 in the morning for all racers. And qualifying would be based on Saturday's qualifying. The practice session was pretty entertaining. A lot of cars on track, a lot of cars. But everyone had their heads screwed on straight for so early in the morning. It gave me a chance to work traffic, which came into play during the race.

Sunday's start was a rolling start. These are real hairy with the Thunder class. My two previous rolling starts have always been in the back. Now here I am up in the top third. The H1 car in front of me decided to use caution on the start and that allowed the inside line to get a huge jump on me. I entered turn one in the middle and worked my way to the inside. But by the time I exited turn one three of the CMC cars that started on the inside were entering turn 2...dang.

But the racing had only begun and once the field got sorted on the back straight, there were 3 CMC cars battling for 4th through 6th place. We battled for seven laps and there may have been 5 car lengths separating us. Lucky for me, I was the leader :-) It was quite show. On the third lap I had a mental break down entering turn one and almost drove straight off but saved it at the last minute (thanks BHP brakes). Then it got even uglier in NASCAR and the lower esses. At that point I had a good chat with myself to get my act together and start driving like I know how. Three laps in a row Brain Smith in his Mustang tried to take me at the end of the back straight. But he could not quite complete the pass and I would out brake him entering 14 on the inside. I knew my escape route was straight down the hill :-) I could get a better run out of hog pen and the Mustang and Firebird could not get a run on me into turn 1. The only problem for me was the two Factory Five racers in front of me. I would catch them in NASCAR but could not get around them, they would leave me between three and four. I would catch them in 5A, lose them under the bridge and then run up on them in the climbing esses. What a pain in the butt.

On the last lap we started to catch the tail end of the Spec E30's. I was able to set the passes a little bit better and Kevin Loudon in his Firebird did a fine job of getting around the Mustang to follow the holes I was opening up. Southbend is a great place to pass. Luckily, the E30 saw me and stayed way wide. Exiting Oak Tree on the last lap, I missed the 3rd to 4th shift. When I finally got it into 4th, I looked up and Kevin and Brian were not there. But a couple of GT3 cars were coming fast. Turns out Kevin missed a shift too and Brian had to punt a E30 out of the way exiting Oak Tree. I decided to let the GT3 Porsche by on the straight, follow him through 14 and the let the GT3 BMW around on the short chute. I tucked behind the BMW and in front of the H1 car that started before me through hogpen. I kept waving for the H1 car to bump me up the front stretch. But he opted to stay right under my rear bumper until the last minute and attempted to sling shot me. But Brian and Kevin got to side by side racing and allowed me to clinch 4th. It pretty much came down to who had their transponder mounted further front between Brian and Kevin.

What a great way to start the 2008 season....March 28th seems a long ways off.

Strangest slight of the weekend...HPDE 1 was on track before us. We took the green for our Saturday practice session and about to complete the first lap out, exiting hogpen there was a waiving yellow. At the entrance to pit road there was a Corvette with a 240SX sitting on its hood. We got about three or four laps driving pass that while they were trying to get the Nissan off the Corvette. Then a H1 car laid down a trail of oil in the lower esses and a Camaro blew a radiator hose entering the climbing esses. So they had to red flag the session because pit road was stilled blocked. We got the black flag once pit road opened. I did see the 240SX returning to the track later in the day.

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Nice job! I heard that some of the big bore guys dropped a lot of oil at T1 that caused some interesting things to happen.

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Congrats Jim! Sounds like a fun weekend. Except for the Vette and 240 owners, that is!

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Good job Jim!!!!

What was your qualifying time?

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There was a lot of mechanical failures during Saturday's practice session. I did hit something in Turn 1 and darn near slid off off, but there was no flag waiving. I did get the red flag NASCAR, so maybe that is what was happening. That was the most yellow/red strip flags I have seen :shock:

A word of advice, if you drop a motor get off the track ASAP. First session out Friday morning, an AI car broke at 14 and laid down an oil slick to pit entrance. Chris Corbetto asked if I knew where the AI car was paddocked. He had to inform the guy about the $450 speedy dry bill VIR is sending.

My qualifying time was around 2:18:3. But my fastest race lap was only 2:20 :x . I have not seen the times from Sunday's race.

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Great job Jim! Next time remind us a couple of days before the race. I would have loved to come up and seen you but it was off my radar.

Isn't your fast lap in the race being just 2 click off the qualifing pretty good? Isn't there a lot more traffic in the race making it harder to run the lower time?

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clinehall wrote:
Isn't your fast lap in the race being just 2 click off the qualifing pretty good? Isn't there a lot more traffic in the race making it harder to run the lower time?


You would think that is the case. But I have discovered the winning drivers are usually equal to their qualifying times. Don't forget, we qualify all together. So if there are 70 cars in a Thunder race, there are 70 cars out in a 15 minute qualifying session!

The other trick is to get to grid early in hopes of getting some clean track. But my fastest qualifying time came on my final lap (5). Go figure.

The secret is to be able to run consistent lap after lap when not in traffic. Since I do not have in-car data acquisition, it will be a few days to evaluate my qualifying laps and race lap times.

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Great job Jim. Can you link or post a schedule ? I'd like to come watch you run sometime.


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BarryStewart wrote:
Great job Jim. Can you link or post a schedule ? I'd like to come watch you run sometime.


The NASA Mid-Atlantic schedule. As far as the actual race times, those are usually posted a week to 10 days in advance. The Camaro-Mustang Challenge and American Iron paddock is the far corner by the trackside suites.

After coming in from Sunday practice, I went for a ride to cool my BHP brake pads and it looks like the CircuitCross was pretty well attended.

They had the wet skid pad going on Saturday which looked like a lot of fun.

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Cline, fastest lap being in the race versus qualifying is sort of a roll of the dice. Depends completely on how they've got the sessions laid out (who is on track simultaneously) and what kind of a draft you can get down the straight parts.

Nice work Jim. Sounds like fun times. Did you pimp around in the suit during the driver's meeting? :D

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Karl Shultz wrote:
Did you pimp around in the suit during the driver's meeting? :D


Actually I did wear it to Sunday's drivers meeting :D I was thinking about bringing the Camaro down to Laurinburg with suit and HANS 8)

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Back in Vee I always used to qualify a couple of seconds faster than the car was capable of achieving during the race. But then I wasn't turning practice laps in qualifying, I was treating it as a qualifying only session.

I'd use features such as the position of the timing line at Roebling. Don't know where they have it now, but then while the start/finish was in the usual place, the actual lap timing line was immediately after turn 4. That meant you could squeeze significant time for just one lap if you compromised the line in 4 to give you a start of the lap on the right, and almost went off track at the end of the lap hammering through 4 because you didn't have to make it through 5 on the next non-hot lap.

A more obvious example: remember when Senna got pole by going through the last corner way too fast to make it because the timing line was so close to it? (Paul Ricard? I forget where). He damn near wrecked hard, but it got him pole even if he was going backwards at the time.

And also, qualifying isn't practice. The level of focus and concentration I used on a qualifying lap was simply too high to maintain for much more than a single lap. If I made a mistake on a lap, I'd back off and relax so I could focus again for the next one. I'd keep an eye on the mirrors for a faster car I could grab a little draft from as they went by. I kept track of exactly what was in front of me, what was behind me, and made sure that would help rather than hinder a hot lap.

It always paid off, usually by about 2 seconds or so. One extreme anectdotal example: back at my SCCA drivers school I remember qualifying a Vee mid-pack in the Spec Racers, with the rest of the Vees back behind them.

It comes down to how much you care about qualifying, really, and if you're willing to give up the fun of semi-racing your qualifying session as if it were practice.

So I'd say that if you're running consistent laps in qualifying, you aren't getting the most out of your qualifying session because all you need is one optimized lap. Save the consistency for the race.

Every car you pass in qualifying is one you don't have to pass in the race. And if you qualify ahead of a car that's faster than you, it's a heck of a lot of difference between him having to find a way past and you watching him vanish into the distance at the start.

Also, Jim is spot-on about being stuck on the outside, it can totally kill your start. Back when, I also studied the videos of the Runoffs at Road Atlanta, and simply being on the inside was worth about 3-4 places coming out of that complex on the first lap. At that track, it was worth giving up two places to get to the inside, it was a good trade-off by the time you came out of turn 3.

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Jim,

Sounds like you have a great weekend!

You have any video you can post?

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For anyone interested, I will be up at VIR for the NASA races this weekend. The schedules are posted at nasaracing.net. For Thunder, Saturday's qualifying is at 1:25 and the the race is at 3:50. Looks to be a full field for all race groups with about 80 cars in each group.

If you are in the area, feel free to stop by. The CMC/AI drivers paddock at the end of the track side suites towards the false grid.

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