Track "Turn numbers"

Frank Catena · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:08 pm **Posts:** 418

Trying to learn the turn numbers at VIR South.
Anyone know what the convention is (besides numerical order) ? Seems like all turns get a number, some "bends" do, some don't. Sometimes you have an "a" like turn 6 and 6a. Usually the "a" is part of a complex, but ...

I understand that a multi-config facility like VIR obviously has some challenges as the same physical turn always keeps the same number no matter the config so sometimes you have to skip numbers. It's the "does this get a number, or a letter, or nothing " that's confusing.

Frank

Diane Hall · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:55 pm

I've never heard of any convention for numbering, but I'm sure interested if there is one...

For VIR, I tend to use numbers through 5a, then names from Snake (flatt esses) through hogpin. So, for the South course, none of them have numbers in my world. :lol:

I'll be watching this one with interest in case there is some logic to it.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:42 pm

To make matters even more comfusing. For those that watched the AMA races on Speed this weekend, they showed 17 corners plus "a's". I think the announcers said tht including the a's there are about 23 corners on the north course. But the confusing thing is they numbered each bend on the crossover but not the snake. Had me confused.

Mark Vitacco · **Posted:** Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:26 am

Frank:

This always seems to be a confusion point hence is reviewed at the
drivers meetings and listed on a track map. What the classroom instructor
draws on the board is what we use.

Corners can be numbered in their numerical order but most of
the time they are numbered in relation to the worker station
that control's them, hence when a station calls in an report we
know where it occured on track.
A station may controll more than one corner, or there may be more
stations than actual count of corners to cover blind spots, etc.
Naming corners is the European convention. Many tracks here
use names instead of numbers or a combination of both.

Are you totally confused yet?

Frank Catena · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:08 pm **Posts:** 418

Mark,

Good point about the worker stations, I didn't consider that but it make good sense. Now all I need is to have the worker stations noted on the course maps.
I have noticed that most of the significant turns have (or acquire) names. Nobody talks about their "big off" at 6a. Sounds much better to say "I went off at the exit of the Spiral".
At least I *think* that sounds better ...
Thanks,
Frank

Mark Vitacco · **Posted:** Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:44 pm

Like I said Frank, what Ron or the classroom instructors writes on the
track map in the classroom is what we use because of the inconsistancy.
Lots of tracks will do A&B when two turns are very close or flow into
one another -sometimes if one station covers two turns they will
be called 6a and 6b or someting like that.
When the designer lays out the track he has one idea, The F&C guyes
renaim them to suite the stations and relation to control, the drivers
have a different prospective so depending on who you talk to the same
track may have 10 turns 9 turns or 11 turns (?)
In Europe they end to
name turns or complex of turns so if you say Druids or l'rouge
you know what series they are referring, much like you lump a sequence
of autocross gates together and drive it like one entity.
Man, its not that complicated......

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