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IMO, 5A/B (top of Snake)demand more respect. Very few realize how quickly a day can turn bad in that area.

Respect Southbend, but fear the Snake, especially if it rains....

I know that this is true but why do people get in trouble there. I breath the throttle going into 5B to get a little rotation. In the rain can you get to much rotation and then the guardrail is so close.

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Mitch Moore

My thinking is they get a little push entering 6, lift and the stories over. Rotate off the track track left and into the tires. Like Matt said, lots have done it. It doesn't help that the run off area on both sides narrows down some in that area.

Ron

Look to your right entering "snake". That embankment is no more than 15 feet from the track surface. The way it goes is the car steps left (it is off camber there), you lift/correct, car snaps right....into the embankment.

And you're not going autocross speed there. I'm near the top of 3rd.

I always thought the cars went track left (Like Diane did) and collected the tire wall out there.

I do agree though that there is little room on the right to catch the car. AND, as you pointed out the enbankment ALWAYS wins!

Ron

A lunchtime track walk on sunday used to be a standard at CarGuys
events during the quite hour. However, once a venue gets over 2 miles you can't walk and have time to properly explain corner in a hour.
I would agree anytime you are at a new venue you should
walk or bicycle the course for the same reasons you would walk
an autocross course. If we had a three day format I would definatly
make it part of the program.

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Mark Vitacco
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Mark I try to bring up in class room for folks to take a look at run off room and such during their out lap and/ or their cool down lap. We also talk about trouble areas and why they are trouble areas. I'm sure Chuck does the same. I also suggest that students take advantage of touring laps to go see the track with no pressure to "go fast".

And yes, a track walk on a 2 mile course takes a LOT of time. And I'm generally not very good at them. At VIR it would be difficult since there are few seams or other permanent marks on the track to refer to.

R

I think the only way to easily work a track walk at VIR full would be to split up the track in sections and walk it in groups. Something like 14 through Hog Pen exit, turn 1 entry through Nascar bend, turn 4 through 7 or so, and entry into climbing esses through Oak Tree. Something similar to that anyway -- at any given event, a student would only get to walk one of these sections (or two if it was done each day). Perhaps it would something done early in the morning prior to scheduled runs.

I found walking Patriot course extremely instructive and fortunately it is almost short enough to make it work at a typical school. Too bad we don't hold events there anymore -- I think the course is a heck of a lot of fun since it is so challenging to "get it right" as one is so busy with features coming at you continually.

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