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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:45 pm 
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On the question about flying up the banking exiting turn 7, I think its a waste of energy and time. Going up there makes the course longer and takes HP to climb the banking. HP which I don't have to spare.

On the other hand, Mark did turn 1:04s so what do I know?

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I would be interested in hearing how you attack T3.


Well, I take the diagonal approach. Starting at about "The Rock" sign on the backstraight, I turn toward the worker station and hit the brakes soon after (going ~115ish this weekend. When it's warmer and I'm not spooked by shadows on NASCAR1/2 its closer to 120). I go to 2nd for this turn as well. And here's my secret: I do not go wide for that turn. A lot of people would drive past the worker station to the cone that was placed on the outside edge of the track and then make their turn-in for turn 3. I go maybe 1/3rd of the way over. By mid corner, I'm an placing the left front pretty much on the grass. I am apexing well before the cone placement this weekend.

Some instructors insist I'm leaving time on the table and my line is junk, but I turn a 1:10.X lap in a 15 year old Sentra. Uhh, OK....whatever.

Chris Schimmel ate my lunch and still made me pay for it last year doing that line. It took a second of my lap time.

I have a theory (and others disagree) that when you reach a certain speed on a road course (I'd say below 50 mph) that autocross rules start taking precedent. Autocross rule sez: minimize distance where you are going slow. That's a slow corner. I'm in it far less than anyone else, meaning I'm spending less time going slower than you (not you in particular, but the plural "you" in general). OK, so you're 2 mph faster out of that turn. I spent at least a second less going 50 mph than "you" (again, plural). And that straight afterward isn't all that long. A 3rd gear straight just isn't long enough to use that extra mph or so.


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Interesting. So, of course the one lap that I 'publish' has me taking a deeper line... but I will post another lap soon w/ telemetry that shows me taking a much tighter line (maybe not as tight as you describe, but definately tighter than that video shows).

You grab second here as well? I wish I would have tried shifting more. My car shifts like a dream too. I guess I will wait until next year to try it. Think I can get an instructor that wouldn't mind me trying to shift more than twice per lap? :)

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Matt,
That is an interesting line. I will have to try that next time we are there. For us (and in saying us, I mean me) low powered cars, I think we need to save time where ever we can.

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For us (and in saying us, I mean me) low powered cars


Says the man with a supercharged Miata.....


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Matt Nicholson wrote:
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For us (and in saying us, I mean me) low powered cars


Says the man with a supercharged Miata.....


No sh*t!

Next interesting thing someone else may have tried. Anyone grab 2nd going into Fishhook? I tried it a few times not sure if it was better or not.

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Anyone grab 2nd going into Fishhook? I tried it a few times not sure if it was better or not.


I did in the time trial on Sunday. I was slower Sunday than I was Saturday.


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Matt Nicholson wrote:
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For us (and in saying us, I mean me) low powered cars


Says the man with a supercharged Miata.....


lol, yeah that extra 15 HP vs a stock 1.8 makes all the difference... espcially with the cruise control set and the A/C on. ;) A Low boost doesn't equal big power. Now that other Black one...200+ HP must be nice.


I think Light weight and 400+ lbs springs > S/C and slight stiffer than stock springs.

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Got back from CMP last night, went there from Rockingham with Stacy. Had a great time at both venues. Rockingham offered a little less grip than last year but really was as much fun as ever. Corded my hoosiers on the last run session...But didn't feel it...no one passed me on that session either. Tried to set up in grid to run behind Adam but the starter let the opposite grid out in front of us so we couldn't run an unencumbered lap. But I think adam was faster in the infield...notice I'm buttering him up cause I need C5 rubber. Found the corded tires at CMP, when I put the street tires back on to learn the track.....Now I need street tires and compounds. I got as much track time at CMP as I did at the Rock.. both events were fun.

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Hey everyone...

Mark Boudoucies sent me a few pics of John Hines... if the rest are like these (and he took almost 1500 shots) on a track he hasn't shot before, with a group he hasn't shot before... I think it may be worth it to the club to have him shoot pics at all our events (especially if he's only gonna charge $10 for high-res shots). He was there all weekend, and most of both time trials... so we should have a few pics of everyone.

Enjoy:

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He's sending me a couple discs of low-res images that we'll get posted... until then, feel free to email him your car and car number and he'll work up a package for you:

Mark Boudoucies: Mark.Boudoucies@dayzim.com

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Nice pics!

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What a great event! Mark, Stacey and the crew run a top-notch event. I really wish we would have 8 of these per year :-)

Thanks to everyone for making my dad feel at home. He had a wonderful time hanging out. A special tip of my hat to Mitch Moore for taking him out for a session on Saturday. That was damn nice of you Mitch.

Here is a videofrom Sunday's TT.

Came in from the TT to discover all four V710's were corded :o They overheated in session 3 and when that 3400 lb beast starts to slide, the tires have no hope against the Rockingham surface.

CMC...here I come :-)

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jimpastorius wrote:
What a great event! Mark, Stacey and the crew run a top-notch event. I really wish we would have 8 of these per year :-)

Thanks to everyone for making my dad feel at home. He had a wonderful time hanging out. A special tip of my hat to Mitch Moore for taking him out for a session on Saturday. That was damn nice of you Mitch.

Here is a videofrom Sunday's TT.

Came in from the TT to discover all four V710's were corded :o They overheated in session 3 and when that 3400 lb beast starts to slide, the tires have no hope against the Rockingham surface.

CMC...here I come :-)



nice video Jim. gotta love that Detroit Rumble. pretty cool how tight the cars in the heat are running. transponders rule.


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Jim I noticed your Dad took lots of pics? You have any of those to share?

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Vincent Keene wrote:
Jim I noticed your Dad took lots of pics? You have any of those to share?


He is working on the photos and videos. I will let y'all know as soon as I know. I think he filled up 2 1G Flashcards.

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