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 Post subject: Rockingham Recap
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:03 am 
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For me, all things considered, it was a damn fine weekend. I’ve had better, but it could have been a whole lot worse. I had fun, and was able to drive the car home. Rewind my “incident” by 10 seconds and it very well may have made Stephen’s incident from last year look minor. Like Ryan always says, “I’d rather be lucky than good”. I was lucky for sure.

About two laps from the end of session two, I entered the infield and made my left headed out of turn three. Just as I get back on the throttle, I get a “thud” from the right rear. It felt almost like I de-beaded the tire, but not exactly. So I pulled onto the grass to get out of the way, and be in clear view of the corner worker in turn four. The corner worker told me to wait for the checkered flag, so I waited and tried to figure how I was going to get the tire fixed. When I got out of the car and looked the tire was fully inflated, but toed in about 10 degrees! The corner worker from station 5 came over and said he saw the RR lock up and figured it was a brake problem.

I waited along with the workers to get a tow, but all they could do was a flat tow which would essentially drag the car since that wheel was locked. I told the guys that if that was the case I could drive the car and drag it myself, which is what I did to get it off the track. Luckily there was an access road to use as a shortcut so the tire actually didn’t get damaged.

So after Ryan and I broke out the tools and remove the tire we saw the problem. It was a no-brainer since the hub stayed on the car and the flange with the studs fell to the ground. The bearing had seized, and the forward torque of the rotating wheel literally rung off the 1” diameter shaft. Yep, it snapped a 1” diameter shaft like a twig. The only thing that kept the wheel on the car was the brake caliper and bracket which was holding the rotor. It bent the ¼” steel plate bracket pretty good, but it held up…that’s the part I built myself. I just replaced this bearing two weeks ago, so stupid me I didn’t think I needed a spare. After all the factory bearing lasted 190K miles so I figured maybe this one would make it at least one event. Will I ever learn? Maybe I need to bring another whole car (like my wife’s Cavalier) to the event to use for spare parts.

Luckily John Hines needed to head into Rockingham to get some tires mounted and offered to pick up any parts I needed if I could find them. I called Advance and fortunately that had one in stock, so Ryan and I disassembled the broken stuff while John was doing the parts run. I moved the left side bearing (a factory one) to the right since that is the heavily loaded side and would mount the Chinese-built replacement bearing to the left. I didn’t want to chance putting that new POS bearing on the “money side” of the NASCAR banking.

The next problem was the rear caliper mounting plate was bent, and three brakes were not an option. So I get out the old BFH and pound it back into shape as best I could. I got it pretty straight, but not good enough to make the caliper parallel to the rotor. I searched the pits for some washers or anything to use as shims to make up the difference, but I didn’t have anything that would work. Again I asked another fine gentlemen (sorry I didn’t get his name) and he had a whole box full of assorted washers and told me to take what I needed. Luckily he had the right size, and with a few extra shims the brake caliper was back in business.

With five minutes to spare, I was able to make it to the time trial grid, much to the amazement of the grid worker. He asked how I was able to get it fixed at all and then how I did it so quickly. I told him with a few good friends and some wrenches it was no problem. Thanks again to John and Ryan for the help to get it back together, as well as the gentlemen who helped with the needed shims. These guys definitely saved my weekend! :thumbsup:

As always, thanks to Mark, Stacy, and the rest of the staff for putting on another great event. I'll be at VIR-F in February (new FACTORY bearings installed) ready to do it again.

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What's the official story on Captain Ron's woes?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:45 am 
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Wow - sorry to hear about that Vincent. I didn't even know you had any issues. I am glad you got it fixed so quickly.

This was my first event with THSCC/Z and my first event at Rockingham. I had a lot of fun. Hitting that banking for the first time was a bit nerve racking. :) Especially when I realized I could go through it with my foot planted firmly to the floor from turn 7 to the braking point for turn 3.

Next time I will have a transponder so I can do the time trials. I felt like I missed out on a lot of the 'fun' by not being able to run the time trials.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:56 am 
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As always a great weekend at the track. Thanks to Mark, Stacy, Marty, Brad...the list goes on and I know I'll forget someone. The event ran on time with a minimum of problems. Thanks also to the corner workers, our great instructors and of course the students who all did a damn fine job of driving. For the first day incident sheet to be about a half a page with half those being drive-offs is outstanding.

I especially want to thank the corner workers who I made work hard on Sunday when I exchanged my oil for air from turns 3 to 4. Like Vincent said, damn glad it happened there and not on the banking. Also VERY glad no one else got caught up in it. Very, very lucky.

The update is that even though the car did its best impression of a blown engine it didn't. What did happen was an oil hose for the remote oil filter came loose and sprayed oil on the exhaust....and everything else under the car!

For me at least there are some learning points to be taken from this.

First, when the cockpit fills with smoke instead of thinking to kill the engine and pull off line I sat there trying to figure out what the h%$K was happening. Lesson learned: if the car fills with smoke pull off and kill the engine. Seems obvious now but not then!

Second, when you do pull off try to end up on something other than grass. I killed the engine and rolled as far off the track as possible. But did not make it to any of the extra pavement out there. Sat in the car strapped in but then figured hey, its still smoking A LOT so lets bail. Got out, put the car between me and the track (at least I did THAT right) and looked under the car. Hmm, grass fires is just not what I was wanting. Thankfully the CRX is light (adrenalin helped here too!), the track was clear of cars so I rolled it away from the grass and stomped out the fires. But still smoking! Roll it again and stomp out those fires! This was getting old!

By that time the corner worker, lugging a damn big and heavy fire bottle, had made it over. Hmm, someone sees flames under the hood. Well, I'm not a pro but that's not good!

Hood is cool and not any smoke so slowly open it to see a small oil fire on a cross member. Quickly put out.

With help from some unsuspecting folks rolled it up on the trailer. Today, reconnected the hose, filled it with oil and it started right up. Excellent oil pressure and no new noises so dodged a bullet this time!

You can bet these clamps will be a service point check before each event now. You can also bet that if the cockpit ever fills with smoke again I'll be off line, will have killed the engine and will have bailed.

My apologies for delaying the Sunday time trial and for adding some drama for the next couple cars that came through 3 after me. Sorry too for making the corner workers work so hard. Glad everyone had slowed it down and only did a gentle spin mostly on track.

Thanks again corner workers!!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:36 pm 
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Q: Does anyone know why they removed the word "Motor" from the name "North Carolina Motor Speedway"? It's not like it's a bicycle speedway or something.

This has been bugging me for a year now. I can't sleep well at night....


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:02 pm 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Caro ... r_Speedway

Blame Roger Penske.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:20 pm 
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Here is an in car video of me driving my Protege a little more than a lap around The Rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqojpWlTCg

I am working on creating a video that includes my Data Logger information on it as well. Banking sure does help the G-load a lot! I was pulling ~1.4 Gs through the banking. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:49 pm 
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Grab 2nd gear in turn 7 to get back on the the oval, sir.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:53 pm 
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Matt Nicholson wrote:
Grab 2nd gear in turn 7 to get back on the the oval, sir.


My instructor advised against that. :roll: He didn't think 2nd would gain me that much.

Also, when you say get back on the oval, are you saying to take 7 wide at the exit and slide up the banking there? I was watching some of the faster guys and some of them were flying up that banking (O'Dell was the most drastic I think).

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:19 pm 
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AdamBreakey wrote:
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Grab 2nd gear in turn 7 to get back on the the oval, sir.


My instructor advised against that. :roll: He didn't think 2nd would gain me that much.


I tried it both ways several times. I ended up at the same RPMs at my shift point on the track going to 4th. Though it "felt" faster to go back to 2nd, it wasn't actually, and eliminating a shift is a good thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:23 pm 
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AdamBreakey wrote:
Matt Nicholson wrote:
Grab 2nd gear in turn 7 to get back on the the oval, sir.


My instructor advised against that. :roll: He didn't think 2nd would gain me that much.

Also, when you say get back on the oval, are you saying to take 7 wide at the exit and slide up the banking there? I was watching some of the faster guys and some of them were flying up that banking (O'Dell was the most drastic I think).

adamb


He didn't like me doing it either, but it was 5mph faster to the barrels for me.

I stayed below the white line until the flag stand.

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Ryan Holton wrote:
AdamBreakey wrote:
Matt Nicholson wrote:
Grab 2nd gear in turn 7 to get back on the the oval, sir.


My instructor advised against that. :roll: He didn't think 2nd would gain me that much.

Also, when you say get back on the oval, are you saying to take 7 wide at the exit and slide up the banking there? I was watching some of the faster guys and some of them were flying up that banking (O'Dell was the most drastic I think).

adamb


He didn't like me doing it either, but it was 5mph faster to the barrels for me.

I stayed below the white line until the flag stand.


I forgot to add that every car is different! The power when I'm in 3rd at 4K RPMS isn't the same as Ryan's. I have more torque thus the decision to stay in the higher gear. In a 1.6L Miata I'd go back to 2nd as well.

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What Ryan said. 2nd gear in that turn is money. Who was your instructor?

I could also show you a thing or three in turn 3 (the first road course turn). Some instructors think I'm nuts though.....


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my car is a 1.8l mazda (weighs +/- 2400lbs). I think 2nd would have gained me a little time, but 5mph is a lot more than I would have guessed. I wish I would have tried it during my solo sessions. The data logger would have been able to tell me exactly if 2nd gear was worth it in my car.

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Matt Nicholson wrote:
What Ryan said. 2nd gear in that turn is money. Who was your instructor?

I could also show you a thing or three in turn 3 (the first road course turn). Some instructors think I'm nuts though.....


Ryan and I had the same instructor. I forget his name though.

As far as T3 goes. When we started the weekend he had me driving a higher angle entrance into 3. Throughout the weekend I kept dropping that angle lower. I did screw up T3 in that video. I came in a little deeper/hotter than I would like. I had been driving that at a little wider than center track at the entrance, then apex and track out as normal. Instead in the video I was near full track right at the turn in. -- I would be interested in hearing how you attack T3.

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Down shifting makes for a BUSY, BUSY entry into 7 but if you keep trying it and you find a rhythm. Its like downshifting at the bottom of Spiral on South, busy but doable and worth it.

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