brake pad question...

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:00 pm

I looked over the forums and didn't see an answer to my question, so here it is. I'm going to be running my first track event at the Rock on Nov 4-5. I'm currently running a set of Hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners. Is this adequate or do I need to consider bumping up to a more track worthy pad like Hawk blues?

I'd appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:23 pm

That's a pretty heavy car. I would at least go to something a little more aggressive and make sure you have very good fluid in there. - AB

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:43 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

That's a pretty heavy car. I would at least go to something a little more aggressive and make sure you have very good fluid in there. - AB

As for fluid, running recently fresh blue, so I'm comfortable there. What pads would you recommend? I've been looking at the prices of the blues and I'm surprised at their cost. Wasn't expecting to shell out $300 for a set of pads.

recommendations????

Steve Coleman · **Joined:** Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:50 pm **Posts:** 188

FWIW...

There's only one corner requiring very hard braking from any kind of high speeds, T3 (entry into infield). I can't imagine having issues with brakes at The Rock.

OCTJMO, ICBW...

Steve

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

RodneyWright wrote:

I looked over the forums and didn't see an answer to my question, so here it is. I'm going to be running my first track event at the Rock on Nov 4-5. I'm currently running a set of Hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners. Is this adequate or do I need to consider bumping up to a more track worthy pad like Hawk blues?

I'd appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks

First event, in Green group, HPS or OEM Pagid/Jurid/Textar should be fine. The difference in braking requirements between your first event and your fourth/fifth/sixth are profound -- not so much your driving abilities, but the fact that you will probably have several "breaks" in traffic which really reduce the heat in the braking system.

For events 2-4 or so, I still think OEM brands are the way to go. After that, call up Carbotech or a Hawk vendor.

Stock E36 brakes are well sized for the car.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:05 am

RodneyWright wrote:

I looked over the forums and didn't see an answer to my question, so here it is. I'm going to be running my first track event at the Rock on Nov 4-5. I'm currently running a set of Hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners. Is this adequate or do I need to consider bumping up to a more track worthy pad like Hawk blues?

I'd appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks

You will be fine with the Hawk HPS pads for your first event. If you have another set of stock pads, toss them in the tool box.

I have upgraded to Ferodo DS3000 pads on the front, but still run the HPS on the rear. My brake pad budget is going to approach the tire budget.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:23 am

jimpastorius wrote:

You will be fine with the Hawk HPS pads for your first event. If you have another set of stock pads, toss them in the tool box.

X2

Bring some spares just in case you need them.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:21 am

Ryan Holton wrote:

jimpastorius wrote:

You will be fine with the Hawk HPS pads for your first event. If you have another set of stock pads, toss them in the tool box.

X2

Bring some spares just in case you need them.

Definately bring extra pads. I couldn't run my final run group at my first event because I had chewed through the pads already. It sucks to have to watch everyone else have fun while you sit on the sidelines.

As for other pads. I used the HPS and the HP+ on the Mustang. The HP+ survived a HPDE and a season of autocross before I had to replace them.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:17 am

Excellent feedback...thanks.

I'll take your collective advice and bring an extra set of pads with me.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:55 am

RodneyWright wrote:

Excellent feedback...thanks.

I'll take your collective advice and bring an extra set of pads with me.

HP plus in the front and HP sport rear. more than enough pad.

on another note. extra tires also. mine gave up midday saturday last time i was there.

Ron Spencer · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 am

Rodney for every car I have run track events with (and even the few races I've done) I've only put real (read track pads) in the front. Always used stock pads for the rear. My thinking is that the rears do very little braking so why bother with real pads. In the 15 years I've been doing this I've never been disapointed. I did try real pads in the rear on the Talon once and really found no benefit.

And yes, to be redundant, bring at least some stock pads as extras so you have something to drive home on.

See you at The Rock!

Ron

Steve Coleman · **Joined:** Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:50 pm **Posts:** 188

jimpastorius wrote:

I have upgraded to Ferodo DS3000 pads on the front, but still run the HPS on the rear. My brake pad budget is going to approach the tire budget.

Where do you get the Ferodos.Their DS-11s were the ONLY pads I was able to have any success with on my IMSA RS Opel sedan. Not too hard on the rotors, as were many full mettalics, but not too soft, just enough metal to last longer than anything eles. I seldom if ever see Ferodo mentioned these days...

Another 10-4 on the spares, I didn't think to mention that as it is so automatic with me.

TIA,

Steve

DanDurusky · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:31 pm **Posts:** 686

just for one more data point, i've ran VIR twice on stock BMW pads and they were fine.

But 'just' fine, now that i've played w/ 'real nausia inducing' track pads

Mitchell Moore · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:11 pm **Posts:** 197

When you do get some track pads I would stay away from the hawk blues. They eat rotors and combination of dust from the pad and iron from the rotor will turn rust colored and bond to the wheel if the dust gets wet. You cannot get it off without damaging the wheel finish. That's how the wheels you got from Jeff look the way they do now.

AdamBreakey · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:58 pm

Mitchell Moore wrote:

When you do get some track pads I would stay away from the hawk blues. They eat rotors and combination of dust from the pad and iron from the rotor will turn rust colored and bond to the wheel if the dust gets wet. You cannot get it off without damaging the wheel finish. That's how the wheels you got from Jeff look the way they do now.

But they work so well!!!! :twisted:

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