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 Post subject: Night track time
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:22 pm 
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So is there such a thing?

I'm seriously considering running in Targa Newfoundland in two years and need some legal night practice time. A complex tight track like Patriot would be ideal...

Has anyone here considered offering night sessions at one of the track days that Tarheel offers? Do any of the local tracks even allow such a thing?

If this more properly fits in rally please move it for me mods.

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 Post subject: Re: Night track time
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:27 pm 
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Kevin Hoff wrote:
I'm seriously considering running in Targa Newfoundland in two years...


I sooooo want to do this as well. 8)

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The VIR 13hr enduro race "charge of the headlight brigade" which is held this fall. It's expensive to put the lights out at the corner stations and all the racecars run extra lighting.


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I'll be there with the Spec Miata...Reid Allred and Tim Aro as codrivers. Can't wait.


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Kevin Hoff wrote:
But is there such a thing _without_ W2W for us solo wussies?
--Kevin H.


Kevin,

I've held off expecting a response from one of the hardcore rally guys but since none have commented yet: In my young and foolish days in the San Jose, CA days I used to drive my ONLY car in high speed public backroad rallys with no pace notes on roads I had never seen before in the dark with just normal headlights. Was usually one of the fastest (elapsed time) cars (in a stock 260Z) but never wrecked. I'm not sure that driving on a controlled course and doing enough laps to learn the corners very well will do you much good on a rally . . . assuming that the most you may have is pace notes.

For me the key was being able to "read" a corner and to get a good feel for the "flow" of the road and to use various "visible in the dark" hints about what the road was going to do before I could actually see what it did. Since the Z was fairly slow, top speeds weren't super high but then the brakes and cornering weren't great either. A late apex line was critical but then the roads were so narrow that if you stayed on your side of the road there was only one line anyway. What you might do is just find some new to you relatively empty twisty backroads when kids, dogs, drunks, cops, etc. aren't likely to be around and just get a feel for what it is like to drive them quickly in the dark.

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Well yeah but that's illegal. :oops: :lol:

I've driven a lot of mtn. roads at pretty high speeds at night but would really prefer not to do that any more. My wife would strongly prefer the same. Plus there's a big difference between "pretty high" and "race"...

The Targa doesn't have pace notes. It's a tulip-style routebook. Scoring is _really_ confusing, particularly given that I've only competed in two Canadian-style scoring performance rallies and no TSD's... Looking at this year's road closure schedule for the Targa it appears that none of the stages are at night so apparently this whole discussion is academic anyway.

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Kevin,

Glad to hear that you also have progressed beyond "the young foolish days", at least in regard to public road driving. :D

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 Post subject: night driving
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I know that one of the Marque clubs...PCA, I think ,has done a night school at Lowes. A check on Coco's "Track Schedule.com , may help.
Some of you "track junkies" jump in on this one,
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