2012 John Mullis Memorial HPDE - VIR-F - September 7-9, 2012

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Saw that the event is short on instructors, so I signed up. Unfortunately I don't have a way to get a car + the camper up to the track.

Anyone want to share their car in exchange for a place to stay (bunk in a 23' camper)?

RickyBeam · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:00 pm

MikeWhitney wrote:

Saw that the event is short on instructors, so I signed up. Unfortunately I don't have a way to get a car + the camper up to the track.

How big is the camper (lbs)? I can put a class I hitch on the bug. If that won't work (and I quote VW, "towing is not recommended"), you're welcome to putter the bug around. (stock + upgraded brakes)

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:24 pm

Here's another interesting situation that occured this week at VIR. Trackdaze supplied continental breakfast and subway sandwiches for lunch, to all instructors and flag station workers both days of the event......the net result was they paid less than buying $9.00 meal ticket from VIR and the overwhelming opinion was that the lunch was far better than at the concession stand. Perhaps we should look into doing the same thing to save some money for the track program.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:24 pm

Too bad the next version of the VIR contracts will forbid it. :lol:

RickyBeam · **Posted:** Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:47 pm

What's next? I'll get kicked out for bringing a bag of Oreos past the gate.

Jason Tower · **Joined:** Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:31 pm **Posts:** 1173

Bernie Baake wrote:

Here's another interesting situation that occured this week at VIR. Trackdaze supplied continental breakfast and subway sandwiches for lunch, to all instructors and flag station workers both days of the event......the net result was they paid less than buying $9.00 meal ticket from VIR and the overwhelming opinion was that the lunch was far better than at the concession stand. Perhaps we should look into doing the same thing to save some money for the track program.

amen

steve remchak · **Posted:** Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:24 pm

Chin has been doing the catered thing for some time now but their fare is high dollar. Pretty sure Wendy at VIR said she is in charge of the catering up there. I'm sure VIR could whip up anything we asked for at a price.

So sandwiches to the corner workers and instructors is all nice and everything but how does this help attendance numbers?

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:00 am

steve remchak wrote:

Chin has been doing the catered thing for some time now but their fare is high dollar. Pretty sure Wendy at VIR said she is in charge of the catering up there. I'm sure VIR could whip up anything we asked for at a price.
So sandwiches to the corner workers and instructors is all nice and everything but how does this help attendance numbers?

Once again Steve, you've totally missed the point. Trackdaze saved money by catering the breakfast and the lunch themselves. Again for your beer sodden brain SAVED MONEY. And definately do not have VIR cater it or you'll pay twice as much.

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:09 am

I hate to agree with Steve, but how does catering lunch to the instructors and workers increase attendance numbers since this would be transparent to the paying students?

Saving money on lunches helps, but not nearly enough. We need more students, not cheaper lunches.

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:48 am

Vincent Keene wrote:

I hate to agree with Steve, but how does catering lunch to the instructors and workers increase attendance numbers since this would be transparent to the paying students?

Saving money on lunches helps, but not nearly enough. We need more students, not cheaper lunches.

O.K. I get it you don't care about saving money. almost half of what Vir charges-----Cool, just forget I said anything and keep trying to figure out how to increase attendance. nothing else matters.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:12 am

Did anyone else have some fraudulent credit card charges hit their account? The card I pretty much only use for Motorsport reg, the kennel and places that don't take AMEX just had some fraudulent charges pop up on it.

With the outside lunch option. I'd imagine we could add some extra questions to the registration page for Motorsport reg and largely automate the order collection process. With 55 instructors registered that's a lot of money in the pool at $9/meal.

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:33 am

Bernie Baake wrote:

Here's another interesting situation that occured this week at VIR. Trackdaze supplied continental breakfast and subway sandwiches for lunch, to all instructors and flag station workers both days of the event......the net result was they paid less than buying $9.00 meal ticket from VIR and the overwhelming opinion was that the lunch was far better than at the concession stand. Perhaps we should look into doing the same thing to save some money for the track program.

Thanks for the idea Bernie. We'll discus it.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:48 pm

Bernie Baake wrote:

steve remchak wrote:

Chin has been doing the catered thing for some time now but their fare is high dollar. Pretty sure Wendy at VIR said she is in charge of the catering up there. I'm sure VIR could whip up anything we asked for at a price.
So sandwiches to the corner workers and instructors is all nice and everything but how does this help attendance numbers?

Once again Steve, you've totally missed the point. Trackdaze saved money by catering the breakfast and the lunch themselves. Again for your beer sodden brain SAVED MONEY. And definately do not have VIR cater it or you'll pay twice as much.

Miss you too Sweetie...........

There is no need for Instructors or Instructor meals without students Bernie. Granted your suggestion has merit from an operational standpoint but at the same time isn't helping with the attendance issue.

Forgive me, I failed to recognize the bottom line advantages to your suggestion. We all need to be more frugal these days.

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:12 am

Bernie Baake wrote:

Vincent Keene wrote:

I hate to agree with Steve, but how does catering lunch to the instructors and workers increase attendance numbers since this would be transparent to the paying students?

Saving money on lunches helps, but not nearly enough. We need more students, not cheaper lunches.

O.K. I get it you don't care about saving money. almost half of what Vir charges-----Cool, just forget I said anything and keep trying to figure out how to increase attendance. nothing else matters.

Once again for your Budwiser primed brain, O.K. I get it you don't care about saving money. almost half of what Vir charges-----Cool, just forget I said anything and keep trying to figure out how to increase attendance. nothing else matters

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:15 am

Bernie Baake wrote:

Once again for your Budwiser primed brain, O.K. I get it you don't care about saving money. almost half of what Vir charges-----Cool, just forget I said anything and keep trying to figure out how to increase attendance. nothing else matters

We all agree with you Bernie. We could save $200 by catering the event ourselves. That's 1/2 of one student's entry fee. Plus or minus $200 is breaking even on a track event. What we really want are 10-20 more students per event. That's $4000-8000, not $200. How do we get 10-20 people to choose our event over the BMW event that was just run, or the Porsche event right after ours, or any in between.

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