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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:21 pm 
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MarcusMcRae wrote:
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Going right weren't you adding an extra cone?


Yeah, but it just flowed better to the right for me. I had to slow down to go left.


I can see the flowing better as I was a bit choppy through there, but in either case for me, I would have been able to mat the go pedal briefly and then brake some for slalom entry, entering right would have just allowed a split second more throttle and probably the same braking. However, entering left essentially eliminated a cone in the slalom and allowed for a better entry into the following gate, more throttle through it, and subsequently the left hand sweeper. Of course Jim did pwnt me in the PAX, so obviously I don't know what I'm talking about. :-)


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Actually Les, I think going left in your car was probably the correct thing to do. You obviously have plenty of torque and I think you could make up the time lost on entry by a better exit. I'm assuming you couldn't flat-foot the slalom either way so there are a lot of different dynamics at play in your case.

Maybe you should let me take a few runs sometime so I can know for sure. :D

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To the right every time. Decided on the course walk that there was simply no question.

Going to the left made for a faster exit. But that faster exit was directly into a braking zone for a hard slow left, which totally wasted any speed gained that way.

Going right sped up the entrance, where it was possible to carry that speed on into the slalom until you had to slow down anyway for the left.

To put it another way: If you thought of the optional slalom by analogy to a road course corner, it was a Type II because it led into a slow-entry Type I (the left). That means you choose the fast way in, not the fast way out.

(But then I had to slow a lot to make the left. If you didn't have to do that, the choice might be less obvious.)

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JamesFeinberg wrote:
Actually Les, I think going left in your car was probably the correct thing to do. You obviously have plenty of torque and I think you could make up the time lost on entry by a better exit. I'm assuming you couldn't flat-foot the slalom either way so there are a lot of different dynamics at play in your case.


No, no flat-footing the slalom. :-) I guess I missed that in your post and can see that if you were able to flat foot the whole thing without braking your "right" approach begins to make sense now. Not only did I have to brake for slalom entry, my left entry approach allowed enough acceleration again between slalom and left sweeper onto the "P" that I had to brake again. Several times I didn't give it enough brake and ended up pushing out too much through that sweeper costing me time. That was probably my biggest mistake on that course. I also never took the fast offset diagonal 3 cone slalom on the main runway as fast as I could have. I think I might have actually been able to flat foot that one just never possessed the necessary sack. Those two changes and I probably could have hit the 65.XXX that I should have run. :(

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Maybe you should let me take a few runs sometime so I can know for sure. :D


I was thinking recently, that you never got the the fun runs I promised you in the Miata for all the help you did with corner weighting, so I definitely owe you a fun run or two.


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[badjoke]a borrowed corvette for a fun run? Just make sure that when you cross the finish line, you hit the BRAKE and not the clutch, and that all porsche GT3's are far far away. . .[\badjoke]

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Les Davis wrote:
I was thinking recently, that you never got the the fun runs I promised you in the Miata for all the help you did with corner weighting, so I definitely owe you a fun run or two.


No worries-- I'm not bitter. At least not anymore. Mostly. :lol:

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