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No way - thanks for that ride! It really did show me what not to do
The course had alot of segments mean to suck you in - watching them *all* catch you out on the first run was very informative

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One of those LeMonHeads...
91/95 Miata, 02 Focus SVT, 01 Ford F250, 09 Suzuki SV650SF
rusty 84 C4 Vette, tiny piece of the General Lei
Irish Sport Horse - 1hp NA!

great course....I finally beat the Hacks!!!

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traded the ultimate driving machine for a hatchback.....

Well, I found my choice by accident. I rode with Les when he went out on Saturday to do an "is it safe" run and he got caught out by the big sweeper too. I ended up extending the straightaway and squaring off the sweeper a good bit. Made entry into that lane change on the taxiway both easy and fast.

I'm glad folks liked the course. I enjoyed it a lot, especially in a car that transitions so well. Between Marcus and I we had a number of goals for the layout.

1. No AWD, clutch melting launches. A selfish request from me. I wasn't sure the S2000 would be able to take two drivers dumping the clutch at 7000RPM on 275 Hoosiers on concrete.

2. Use as few cones as possible. While standing on the taxiway approaching the P in one spot on Saturday, I think I had line of sight on about 20 upright cones.

3. Let drivers pick their way through a lot of stuff.

4. Surprise people. That last element before the finish (yes, the one that I coned away my fastest raw time in), for example, drove a lot faster than it walked. But, if you really flew through there, you couldn't make the finish. Have to find the middle ground somewhere.

5. Something that wasn't "business as usual." It looked different, it drove different, and it didn't run totally parallel to the outer boundary of the pavement. I call it "asymmetrical."

(On Edit) 6. "No Gates." Where a "gate" is something you have to drive "through" marked by two cones side by side.

(On Edit) 7. "Hey Stephen, I've got an idea how we should lay out the big sweeper. One cone." Technically we had three, but those were to keep people out of the grass. I think Kendt found that the first of the three really didn't serve him well to be on top of.

As always, thanks to the whole staff on the back end for making things just kind of work. It's been probably six or seven years since I co chaired. A big shout out goes to Rob Lupella, who genuinely busts his ass to make sure the worker stuff goes well. I'm not sure everyone is aware, but the guy is constantly walking the entire site making sure everything is going well for the workers, collecting volunteers to help, the guy is a whirlwind of activity.

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Karl S.
2014 Baby, 2014 House, 2013 Ford Focus ST, 2013 BMW 328i, 1994 Mercedes E320
(Insert passive aggressive signature line here)

Many thanks to everyone who helped out with the event on Saturday night at the ROCK and on Sunday. Great motorsports weekend!!!!!

I really enjoyed the course (although my times don't reflect that) I also want to recognise how friendly everyone from the club is. I have brought several people to codrive and watch....and everytime I leave feeling like I have got to know someone better..


Its nice to do something competive without the cut throat attitude...

thanks again
jp

Great event, great course. What more can I say than that? I loved it.

For me, for my own performance, it was a breakthrough. It was the first event this year where I feel I've pushed the limits of the car/tyres. I was actually happy with the first run, then pushed it a little more to get my fastest run of the day on the second. There was a consistency I've never seen in my runs before -- the entire spread of 5 runs, from fastest to slowest, was 0.511 seconds. I think I pulled nearly as much out of the equipment as there was to offer -- I could see maybe a second to gain if it was perfect, but not much more than that. Looking ahead, analysing the line, looking ahead, feeling the tyres for traction vs. slip angle and adjusting steering input accordingly, feeding that back into the line, looking ahead, all of it came together.

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Martyn Wheeler
AXing Kit's '05 Mazda 3, #29 HStock
(when The Gonzo Symphonic allows)

How did everyone take the optional slalom on the taxiway? Was anyone entering it on the right?

I went left every time, but that doesn't mean I was right.

Scott

I went right every time. A lot of that had to do with my car and I might have changed my mind if I was driving something faster but it would have to be a *lot* faster and not so twitchy under braking. Going left would have been a very low percentage maneuver for me and, regardless, I still think going right was faster for low power cars.

I meant to datalog a run to the left but I forgot on my first run in the afternoon and just punted on the idea from there.

I know Eric P. went left in the morning but I'd be curious to know if he tried it the other way in the afternoon. We chatted about it briefly after the morning runs and he mentioned he might try it.

Jim

Anybody not nicknamed Alien take it on the right?

Musta been those danged Bridgestones ...

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Has no responsibility whatsoever.

Me, once by mistake.

x2...didn't like it.

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Stephen Westerfield
2009 Infiniti M35 | 2007 Honda Fit Sport | 2005 Ford Mustang GT |2000 GMC Sierra |1992 Acura Integra LS | Super Westerfield Bros Acura Integra

I went right in the afternoon. It just felt more natural for my car. It slaloms really well. The car was feeling kind of strange and understeering in the right hand sweepers though. It normally is pretty balanced and easy to postion in sweepers. I realized at the end of the day my left front shock was at full soft instead of full stiff. Doh!

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Silver Honda
Green Ford
Blue/White Suzuki
Red Triumph
Grey BMW

"Never let life be shaped by fear of its end"

No, you're a towel!

I went to the right on my first run when the workers put the last pointer cone in the lane change going into it on the wrong side. DNF?

Oh well.

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Colin O'Connell

'94 BMW NASA SPEC 3
'02 F350 tow vehicle (not bad for a tow vehicle)
'97 Miata STO (autoX and sunny day spoils vehicle)
'97 BMW 328i (loaner to the kids when their cars don't work vehicle)
'05 Toyota Highlander

Um, it was *easier* going right so I don't know what you're talking about Willis...

Jim

I went right my first run of the PM. Right before my second run of the PM, "Start" told me that there was some talk of a DNF on my previous.

So I went back to left.

But really, right felt weird. I had a lot more inputs to make that way and I don't see how it could be faster.

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Not spectacular just decent.
I'm not sure what I'm driving.
Maybe an ITR in DS.
Or half-assed STX prepped 330.

I never even considered right as an option. I will have to say that was one of my more "out of control" spots on the course every run. I just kinda tossed the car around and hoped for the best. Going right weren't you adding an extra cone?