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Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

scottjohnson wrote:

MartynWheeler wrote:

But even so, I do have to ask why that very first cone was so far out when the same effect of avoiding an initial spin on launch could have been achieved with about 4-6 feet less offset?

The start was set up that way for reasons other than safety. I didn't pay enough attention to see if it worked.

Would those folks that drive AWD cars please tell me how we did with the start.

Well, Kevin, maybe you've talked me into an ALk after all..

I thought the start essentially neutralized that AWD aspect for me. Launched just hard enough to get some wheel spin and had to carry a very short 1st gear until just after the 90 degree left. If my wheels are more than a couple of degrees off of straight I have no traction in 1st gear and the shift to second in the meat of the powerband won't do much to propel me in the desired direction either. I'd be interested to hear how Keith and Christine handled the first two gates in their STi's but for me it was a low rpm launch and very light throttle. Having said that, I liked the start. It showed me that I can operate my hammer foot in something other than pure binary mode. I also received some expert commentary on that first gate on a walk through with one of the cutest girls at the event :wink:

The stop box on the other hand seemed tight for the speed I was carrying into it :shock:

That's with big ass brakes, very good pads, and steel lines.

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2007 8:57 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

I was launching at 5000 rpm and accelerating full throttle all the way to the slalom. I would've been doing the same thing with an STi. It would've been a lot faster and more entertaining, though. :lol:

That's good to know, because it's as hateful a I'm willing to do for a start, so it might as well be more fun next time.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Chris Landi wrote:

That's with big ass brakes, very good pads, and steel lines.

You do know that tires are what stop your car, not brake calipers, brake pads nor braided steel lines?

:fire:

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

Wes Eargle wrote:

Chris Landi wrote:

That's with big ass brakes, very good pads, and steel lines.

You do know that tires are what stop your car, not brake calipers, brake pads nor braided steel lines?

:fire:

Yep, I was just coming back to add that I was on street tires. The braking system is not the weak point.

KendtEklund · **Joined:** Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:29 pm **Posts:** 1204

MartynWheeler wrote:

Remember that aside from my first run, I deliberately took out one cone on every run after that.

The single cone on the first triangle had "Eat Me" all over it. It cost me a lot more than two seconds to slow for the triangle, get the car through it, and accelerate out the other side. So I floored it from one slalom to the next straight through that cone as if it wasn't there. Taking out the cone reduced my time by 1-2 seconds at least, including the cone penalty.

Just double or triple cones could have eliminated that, right?

I haven't run enough different courses to have any authority on what separates a good course from bad, but I loved how speed built from one side to the other. The sweeper from the taxiway to the runway was fun, fun, fun!

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Edit:

Mememememe

Sorry I tried to help - go figure it out yourself.

David Spratte · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2007 11:16 pm

DCCD? Full Auto Mode?

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2007 6:41 am

David Spratte wrote:

DCCD? Full Auto Mode?

Center Differential Control. Full Auto Mode will shift the amount of power that goes to front/rear wheels dependent upon the amount of traction.

When I drove Dan's STi, we tried putting to maximum to the rear instead of auto... yes, that's how I learned to drift

- AB

David Spratte · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2007 6:44 am

Aaron Buckley wrote:

David Spratte wrote:

DCCD? Full Auto Mode?

Center Differential Control. Full Auto Mode will shift the amount of power that goes to front/rear wheels dependent upon the amount of traction.

When I drove Dan's STi, we tried putting to maximum to the rear instead of auto... yes, that's how I learned to drift

- AB

Nice. So the cars drive themselves. :twisted:

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

Kevin Allen wrote:

Me Me Me Me me me me me me

I said I'd like to hear Keith and Christine's input. We ALREADY heard from you.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

KendtEklund wrote:

Just double or triple cones could have eliminated that, right?

I don't like that philosophy. Cones are there to mark the course, not to build in a penalty situation. There is no such thing as a cone that you can hit that will save two seconds. No way, no how.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2007 7:17 am

Wes Eargle wrote:

KendtEklund wrote:

Just double or triple cones could have eliminated that, right?

I don't like that philosophy. Cones are there to mark the course, not to build in a penalty situation. There is no such thing as a cone that you can hit that will save two seconds. No way, no how.

If there would have been a long straight after the V on the taxiway, I would have give it a shot of just hitting the cone.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Ryan Holton wrote:

Wes Eargle wrote:

KendtEklund wrote:

Just double or triple cones could have eliminated that, right?

I don't like that philosophy. Cones are there to mark the course, not to build in a penalty situation. There is no such thing as a cone that you can hit that will save two seconds. No way, no how.

If there would have been a long straight after the V on the taxiway, I would have give it a shot of just hitting the cone.

Right, which wasn't there. IIRC, the only one that even came close was a Chicago box in Rocky Mount that was in a 3rd gear section. I think that I remember hearing that Dishman punted it a country mile and it was *still* slower after the penalty than a clean run would have been. Two seconds is a lot of distance on course.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2007 7:48 am

Wes Eargle wrote:

Ryan Holton wrote:

Wes Eargle wrote:

KendtEklund wrote:

Just double or triple cones could have eliminated that, right?

I don't like that philosophy. Cones are there to mark the course, not to build in a penalty situation. There is no such thing as a cone that you can hit that will save two seconds. No way, no how.

If there would have been a long straight after the V on the taxiway, I would have give it a shot of just hitting the cone.

Right, which wasn't there. IIRC, the only one that even came close was a Chicago box in Rocky Mount that was in a 3rd gear section. I think that I remember hearing that Dishman punted it a country mile and it was *still* slower after the penalty than a clean run would have been. Two seconds is a lot of distance on course.

I didnt say it would have been faster, just that I might would have given it a shot.

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2007 8:30 am

I remember Matt Nicholson doing that in Rocky Mount once. He got the cone just right, allowing hime to virtually bypass a chicago box. He then went screaming down the runway to the next major element, a slalom.

Unfortunately, Matt ran out of skill and the extra 5-10 mph at slalom entry meant a blown run (since he didn't adjust his braking point accordingly).

Scott

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