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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:27 am 
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Tom Hoppe wrote:
I figured a bunch of R&D would be involved, but I really can't afford to have the shocks done and then revalved....That would be a ton more $$.

I don't think it's terribly bad to have them revalved once they are built.
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I shot an email to brian priebe and mark daddio so far. I would feel kinda bad calling GH and asking about shocks since I won't be buying them through him but going straight to truechoice.

Bah. Just tell GH that up front and ask anyway. If he minds, he won't answer. If he don't, he'll answer. Dollars to donuts he answers.

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The first time Tim and I tested our shocks the car was undriveable since it was way too stiff, the worst handling car I've ever driven. So we sent the shocks back, gave them feedback, and they were pretty good upon their return.


I was trying to avoid the "too stiff" thing, which is why I was going to leave the softest setting at pretty much the stock setting. The STi has pretty stiff shocks stock already.


The problem isn't stiffness of shocks, it's lack of stiff enough spring. Fortunately these days we can get shocks built that make up for the lack of spring, but they also need to be stiffer to do so. I think. :-)

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I guess the next question is, how did you determine that first shock valving? How did you get it too stiff? Was it something you guys guessed on? I was thinking about sending in the stockers to get dynoed and then base the konis off that...


From what I gather from the story, back in the day none of these companies had a clue about building shocks for stock autocross use. They'd throw some darts from the sound of things. These days, however, they seem to know what they are doing.

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That right there is a great point though. I know I will be on the learning curve for a bit and honestly, unlike the WRX in STX, I don't plan to be fast right away. I think it will take me some time to learn the car. I would hate to be held back by the car, but I don't think that is likely to happen at *all* so I could just hold off on the shocks until I stop getting faster with the stockers....


I think you'd be better off talking to a shock company (ProParts, TrueChoice, etc) and getting them the data on the car. Corner weights, spring rates, motion ratios, bar size, etc. Then they can give you an idea of where to start, and I really doubt you'll end up with something near your stock setting as part of your usable range. But that's my gut talking, not something expert. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, though...


--Donnie


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