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Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:38 pm

David Spratte wrote:

scottjohnson wrote:

Tonya Mauldin wrote:

I don't see that changing any time soon either with a baby in the picture.

Your pregnant???!!! :shock:

How did that happen?

I'm sure you could find a link via Google that would explain how all that works.

Google images maybe ???

I'll just ask Sally when I get home, she's a doctor, I bet they taught her all that cool stuff in medical school!

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:41 pm

It seems to me you can't possibly make everyone happy WRT ladies classes. If you go with individual L classes, those women who are looking for more competion will feel their victory over a small number of others is not as meaningful as they'd like. If you lump them all into a PAXed Ladies Class, then those women looking for less competition are going to feel they "have no chance" [as if the point of entering is to get a trophy... but I digress]. And there simply aren't enough women driving to do both.

The ideal situation would be to have enough female autocrossers that we could support both the L classes and a PAXed Ladies Class, just as we do now with the open classes and X (and NOV) class. Then everyone could choose where to find the level of competition they're most comfortable with. That would be cool.

In the meantime, all we can do is pick whichever option makes the most sense for the current situation, and work toward increasing the number of women participating, through Chicks-Only schools, mentoring programs, and whatever other means we can think of.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:49 pm

GWEN BAAKE wrote:

That way, down the road a bit, we'd have more imput and the "powers that be" would have a better read on "what women want". Just my $.02 worth.

There is no man alive that knows what a woman wants. Hell, even after you tell us, we can't get it right

Why are you running HSL in the VA State Championship? For competition, you need to run HS

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:51 pm

Carl Fisher wrote:

It seems to me you can't possibly make everyone happy WRT ladies classes. If you go with individual L classes, those women who are looking for more competion will feel their victory over a small number of others is not as meaningful as they'd like. If you lump them all into a PAXed Ladies Class, then those women looking for less competition are going to feel they "have no chance" [as if the point of entering is to get a trophy... but I digress]. And there simply aren't enough women driving to do both.

The ideal situation would be to have enough female autocrossers that we could support both the L classes and a PAXed Ladies Class, just as we do now with the open classes and X (and NOV) class. Then everyone could choose where to find the level of competition they're most comfortable with. That would be cool.

In the meantime, all we can do is pick whichever option makes the most sense for the current situation, and work toward increasing the number of women participating, through Chicks-Only schools, mentoring programs, and whatever other means we can think of.

I think Carl hit the nail on the head here. The reason this decision was originally made was based on numbers....and last years number of female participants at NCAC last year support this. It wasn't made to discourage anyone from running. Will we get more women out there this year? I don't know, but I hope so.

Jason Mauldin · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:54 pm

scottjohnson wrote:

Tonya Mauldin wrote:

I don't see that changing any time soon either with a baby in the picture.

You're pregnant???!!! :shock:

How did that happen?

Edit: Grammar > Scott

She's not pregnant. At least not that I'm aware of!

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:01 pm

jimpastorius wrote:

GWEN BAAKE wrote:

That way, down the road a bit, we'd have more imput and the "powers that be" would have a better read on "what women want". Just my $.02 worth.

There is no man alive that knows what a woman wants. Hell, even after you tell us, we can't get it right

Why are you running HSL in the VA State Championship? For competition, you need to run HS

This is off topic for the thread but I can't help myself!
Jim,
This house ain't big enough for 2 HS drivers! (I actually had better times in Danville last Sunday than Bernie...tough luck his afternoon runs were in the rain!)

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:11 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

Rick Butters wrote:

Should we move this thread to the visitor forum (or create a new thread on ladies participation at NCAC), so that it will be open to non-THSCC members for comment?

Richard, if you want to move the relevant (non bitching and secondguessing) posts, that would be cool.

Generally I would say this is a good idea but...

1. It is hard to determine which posts of this thread to move.
2. I am a bit leary of moving posts (or the entire thread) that started in a private (THSCC member only forum) into a public one. I might be the only one who feels that way.

IMHO if this REALLY is supposed to be an open discussion, that it start out all over again in the visitors forum. Or just let the Autocross VPs know how you feel (email, whatever) and then let them work this out with all of the important NCAC people. Like someone said, it might be a done deal anyhow. Also people need to remember that Forum argument threads like this does not equal "club decision" especially as only a subset of the club is participating in discussions like this.

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:13 pm

Oh.. Forgot to say, I have no dog in this fight.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:15 pm

I demand an Irish-American indexed class. We just do not have enough Irish-Americans at the events. Probably due to the fact we are usually hung-over and hate bright daylight. I know this class would attract more Irish-Americans to events. Since a good Irish woman would kick most men's butts, I don't think there is a need for an IAL class (Irish American Ladies).

Yes, I will go out on a limb and come up with an index system for this new class.

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:22 pm

jimpastorius wrote:

I demand an Irish-American indexed class. We just do not have enough Irish-Americans at the events. Probably due to the fact we are usually hung-over and hate bright daylight. I know this class would attract more Irish-Americans to events. Since a good Irish woman would kick most men's butts, I don't think there is a need for an IAL class (Irish American Ladies).

Yes, I will go out on a limb and come up with an index system for this new class.

Dude, you don't want to go there, I'm Irish enough!

Actually Scottish-Irish, so I suppose I'd just have to wear a dress - er kilt and demonstrate the need for an Irish-Ladies class.

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:26 pm

jimpastorius wrote:

I demand an Irish-American indexed class. We just do not have enough Irish-Americans at the events. Probably due to the fact we are usually hung-over and hate bright daylight. I know this class would attract more Irish-Americans to events. Since a good Irish woman would kick most men's butts, I don't think there is a need for an IAL class (Irish American Ladies).

Yes, I will go out on a limb and come up with an index system for this new class.

I sure hope your IA car is fully prepped to IA rules with a Guinness tap....we don't want to hear any excuses.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

scottjohnson wrote:

jimpastorius wrote:

I demand an Irish-American indexed class. We just do not have enough Irish-Americans at the events. Probably due to the fact we are usually hung-over and hate bright daylight. I know this class would attract more Irish-Americans to events. Since a good Irish woman would kick most men's butts, I don't think there is a need for an IAL class (Irish American Ladies).

Yes, I will go out on a limb and come up with an index system for this new class.

Dude, you don't want to go there, I'm Irish enough!

Actually Scottish-Irish, so I suppose I'd just have to wear a dress - er kilt and demonstrate the need for an Irish-Ladies class.

Then you'll have to split THAT into IAC, IAP, IACL and IAPL, then TIRIAC, TIRIACP, TIRIACL and TIRIACP ad nauseum.

who can drink more, the Catholics or the Protestants

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:48 pm

Wow, after 3 years with this forum we finally have a thread that goes in the right direction!

Chris Brown · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:52 pm

scottjohnson wrote:

Wow, after 3 years with this forum we finally have a thread that goes in the right direction!

are we reading the same thread?

Rick Butters · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:53 pm

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