Sounds like FT. Myers Was intersting...

David Teague · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:23 pm

Jean Kinser wrote:

Robert Carpenter, GS competitor protested the event today for unsafe speed. The SS GT3 was clocked all three runs I heard, at 83MPH...let's see 13 MPH over the speed by SCCA rules.

In return, the protest was upheld and all runs for Sunday thrown out....

It was not his intenet to just get times thrown for Sunday and advance any position but address issues long at the forefront of this sport.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:35 pm

David Teague wrote:

Jean Kinser wrote:

Robert Carpenter, GS competitor protested the event today for unsafe speed. The SS GT3 was clocked all three runs I heard, at 83MPH...let's see 13 MPH over the speed by SCCA rules.

In return, the protest was upheld and all runs for Sunday thrown out....

Bahhh the big news is that the rumor mill has Aaron Buckley taking first in B Stock!!!

Also, I heard the corner speeds were the reason Sunday was tossed.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:41 am

Yeah, big congrats to Buckley...he did win. Well, that's assuming that what *should* happen does happen...currently today's runs have been tossed, but supposedly the likely scenario is that they'll be reinstated on appeal (likely tomorrow), but the issue will go before the SEB which will allow them to put better rules in place for 2007 on course designs to prevent further speed creep.

For those curious, we hit limiter in second on the Cayman today, which is 72MPH. I would have probably hit it twice or three times had I been driving well, but none enough to warrant shifting (Buckley and Hertweck were going to third for a long stretch). There was a lot of high speed stuff while turning, too. I'm not sure I'd care to see more courses quite that fast for *this* sport, personally.

The speed of those courses was *very* good for the GT3 as they are geared even longer than we are and were able to use it. The GT3 was also on Kumhos with us on Hoosiers, which was probably worth some of the time, too. Then I believe a lot of the time we lost was due to wheelspin. I had a *ton* of it...so much that we corded rear tires in 25 total runs.

Time to go swaybar shopping....

--Donnie

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Wasn't Ft. Myers where a courseworker got pinned between a car and the fence a couple of years ago (worker's fault for not paying attention + course design flaw = playing the role of spring rubber)?

I'm too much of a newb to remember the top of third gear courses at a now tilled under airport, but I do believe that in a sport of such transitions that a 45mph ( :!:

) transition cap wouldn't be a bad idea.

Also, I'll predict a move of the GT3 into ASP ASAP.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:34 am

Probably won't see the GT3 going to ASP any time soon. If Ian would have cleaned house at Nats last year, then maybe, but it won't be dominate at all the events. You will see an Elise win and the Z06 is still going to be the top dog in SS.

Congrats to Aaron. Anybody have any idea how Adam did? I haven't talked to him yet.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:53 am

It says Saturday but it appears to be complete results

http://www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/S ... turday.pdf

Adam finished 12th I think

Chuck Frank · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:08 pm

The event chairman, aka "King of Buckingham Field" threw an absolute hissy fit 2 years ago when SCCA changed his course design at the event to slow it down. Seems that design was the same one they had been running there all season, practicing up for the Big Day. He refused to let SCCA use the site for the 05 events because of it. A certain VA based STS Subie lost control at the finish and went all the way across the site (about the same distance as the length of the Danville site, i.e. a LONG ways) before hitting a shipping container off the pavement on the other side hard enough to require trailering home.
I remember being well into 3rd gear in the Celica going into a 6 cone slallom into that finish. :shock:

The year before Donna had to run for her life LITTERALLY when a Corvette went out of control and slid a long distance right at the course workers. I really like that site, but the speeds there do get excessive.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:42 pm

That same event where the Subie hit the container was also where Chris' spin had her back into a pallet of cinder blocks that were a good distance away from that third gear slalom. It was also the same event where the corner workers were hit by the Corvette. It was also the same event where I spun five out of 12 runs.

Anyway, this course was too fast. An STX car spun and went much further away from course than where workers were standing but happened to go between them. Fortunately this was a small event and they weren't trying to get a lot of cars through!

And it isn't about top speeds...it's about the fact that you could get to a very brisk pace and had no reason to slow, ever. That's definitely going to let the top drivers rise to the occasion, and they did. GH would have probably done great in the Cayman if we would have had four wheels on the ground most of the time instead of a rear wheel lifting. I would have probably just spun more.

--Donnie

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Chuck Frank wrote:

The

Trying to instigate Buckley, aren't you. :wink:

MartynWheeler · **Joined:** Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:30 pm **Posts:** 303

Fastest course I remember was the very first one at Laurinburg. As I recall there were light aircraft landing occasionally, so the length of the runway was like four offsets with a turnaround cone at each end (there was some slow fiddly stuff on the taxiway too, it wasn't just a drag race). I think I had the TransAm ('84) up in the 95mph range. Everyone overshot the turnaround on the first run, as I recall, but the course was designed so you could do that without taking a cone/dnf penalty. Safe course. Fun.

Not that I'd necessarily want to do it now. Not for a points event, anyway: the '94 is limited by computer to 108, and I can't change the programming in Stock.

AdamBreakey · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:26 pm

boy did i suck it up this weekend.

Although if I didn't have cone troubles on Sunday I would have finished in a more respectable position. My fastest raw time 47.1 was 1.2 seconds quicker than my fastest clean time. :bangs head:

also, I would have finished in a close second (with my cones) had I ran my car in SM2. I guess SM2 was a little weak down there.

oh well, I had fun. It was good to get the rust off.

Looking forward to this weekend.

adamb

Chuck Frank · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:13 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

Chuck Frank wrote:

The

Trying to instigate Buckley, aren't you. :wink:

??????

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

http://media.putfile.com/SCCA-Nat-Tour-Ft-Myers

Sunday's course through the windshield of the 4th place DSP driver.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9591930889

ES 94 Miata on street tires. Check out the tach.

George Bright · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:24 am

Wes Eargle wrote:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8144739449591930889

ES 94 Miata on street tires. Check out the tach.

I tried the link and it just puts me through to Google.com

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